Red Carpet Box

[zadidoll]

Looks at store locator on M•A•C's site Nordstrom is definitely the place on the west side of the state to get M•A•C while on the east side it's Nordstrom and Macy's.

 

[BlackMagicRose]

I wasn't around months ago when this thread was really active, but I did read through a lot of the posts. Sheesh, this "business" is really shady, and it seems like some people are still getting drawn in somehow. 

 

[zadidoll]

Well there will always be someone interested in these types of subscriptions. As I mentioned above there was a group on Facebook that strictly was for the purpose to sell counterfeit M•A•C and the people KNEW up front they were buying counterfeit M•A•C. M•A•C shut the group down and they reopened, that happened at least three times to my knowledge and they're possibly up again.

I think it's stupid because you're not buying M•A•C, you're not buying anything remotely close to M•A•C and you really can't brag to friends that it IS M•A•C that you're using because you're not. On top of all that you're putting yourself at risk for lead poisoning or something else like an infection because you don't know what's really in it. If I want M•A•C I'll go to my local M•A•C store at the mall or order it from M•A•C and if they're sold out of an exclusive or limited edition color then so be it, I can live without it.

I just don't get those types of people who rather have fake then real. It just makes no sense to me.

 

[Hellocat4]

In case anyone is interested, here is the "disclaimer" she put up. No doubt her businessman husband advised her- it just screams professional:

OKAY! We have heard and listened! The Majority DO want these mysterious MAC lipsticks so I am GIFTING you them for FREE. You will get FOUR full sized items but you MUST SIGN this post and hold us not liable for any dissatisfaction, your feelings on the lipsticks must be withheld from this FB page, please do not double speak here and then find something else to the effect that I did not offer you a substitute gift or ANY negative things regarding the FREE GIFT. 

 

[bluelion]

Yeah, that's the bit that I found more alarming than the lipstick itself. I don't really have any interest in reporting her, but just seeing that disclaimer makes me wonder why people aren't questioning that. If any other company pulled that, I'd definitely rethink buying from them. I really don't think she has many customers, and those that do buy aren't that picky, or already know the owner and are just supporting her venture. That's the only way I can make sense out of it.

 

[meaganola]

This makes me think of prosecutions for receiving stolen goods. As a consumer, setting aside the health issues, I would be worried that this might leave *me* vulnerable as a potential investigation target. There's something weird and off-putting about the way so many things are put up for subscriber vote that really should not be in a business situation. This is merely one of those things.

 

[BlackMagicRose]

I also really don't like how nasty the owner and her friends are, especially if people question or speak out against her business practices. It makes people afraid to speak out or warn others, so maybe unsuspecting people are being taken by her. I'm sure they wise up pretty quickly (a fake bag with another fake brand label taped over it? Really??) but then they have to go through either losing their money or trying to win a paypal dispute. I love trying out sub boxes, but stories like this make me really hesitant to try new ones until they have been thoroughly tested by other people. Making people sign a facebook post as some kind of consent really doesn't hold any legal weight either. Distributing counterfeit products is still illegal. 

 

[zadidoll]

Originally Posted by Hellocat4 /img/forum/go_quote.gif

In case anyone is interested, here is the "disclaimer" she put up. No doubt her businessman husband advised her- it just screams professional:

OKAY! We have heard and listened! The Majority DO want these mysterious MAC lipsticks so I am GIFTING you them for FREE. You will get FOUR full sized items but you MUST SIGN this post and hold us not liable for any dissatisfaction, your feelings on the lipsticks must be withheld from this FB page, please do not double speak here and then find something else to the effect that I did not offer you a substitute gift or ANY negative things regarding the FREE GIFT. 

She should NOT be sending out ANY M•A•C. Counterfeit or legitimate she is NOT authorized to distribute it. If she were an individual person giving her friends M•A•C as gifts that's totally different but she's a business selling products and including M•A•C. It doesn't matter if it's a "gift" because it's not as it's an incentive for people to buy her box of stuff. Furthermore, M•A•C does not wholesale products to people, even those with M•A•C Pro card have a stipulation on the back of the card that we can't resale the products and M•A•C only distributes their products at wholesale costs to those they do business with - Macy's, Nordstrom, Belk (these are the companies I know of and which are listed on the M•A•C website, I think Dillards is one of their authorized sellers).

Patty, my advise is NOT to distribute it as a gift or even sell it. Seriously, messing with M•A•C products will be nothing but trouble if and when reported to M•A•C because someone WILL report you. If it's purchased through a "third party vendor" it's going to be counterfeit and THAT is Federal offense. Seriously, don't mess with M•A•C.

 

[kawaiimeows]

Originally Posted by Hellocat4 /img/forum/go_quote.gif

In case anyone is interested, here is the "disclaimer" she put up. No doubt her businessman husband advised her- it just screams professional:

OKAY! We have heard and listened! The Majority DO want these mysterious MAC lipsticks so I am GIFTING you them for FREE. You will get FOUR full sized items but you MUST SIGN this post and hold us not liable for any dissatisfaction, your feelings on the lipsticks must be withheld from this FB page, please do not double speak here and then find something else to the effect that I did not offer you a substitute gift or ANY negative things regarding the FREE GIFT. 

I can't believe how incredibly sketchy this sounds.

Its like I can just see the red flags waiving from hundreds of miles away. What a scammer.

 

[kawaiimeows]

heh, via RCB's facebook, i love how she blames her bad business managing on others.

Quote: Dear Clients: We are sorry to inform you that because a certain forum member(s), and their forum, that have taken actions to report us, to impress upon our clients to take action against us, and report us to numerous agencies including MAC, we MUST inform you that we cannot/will not send out the MAC lipsticks whether they have been purchased from a reputable wholesaler or not. This particular giveaway gift was meant for good intentions and to bring a renewed beginning; starting with Charity. Your substitution gift exceeds the lipsticks value. If you have any questions and would like immediate assistance, even today, please contact us for the FASTEST service on FB mail ONLY and we will provide a CS help line.

 

[zadidoll]

Ok reading that made me curious to what else she wrote on her wall. The funny thing is NO ONE has reported her, least not yet to my knowledge. It's good that's she not going to distribute it since she seems to knows the lipsticks are fake. Like I wrote above, don't mess with M•A•C because they do go after people who sell and distribute counterfeit M•A•C. Once made aware of a company selling or distributing their products they'll keep an eye on that company for a very long time.

 

[MissLindaJean]

Ok reading that made me curious to what else she wrote on her wall. The funny thing is NO ONE has reported her, least not yet to my knowledge. It's good that's she not going to distribute it since she seems to knows the lipsticks are fake. Like I wrote above, don't mess with M•A•C because they do go after people who sell and distribute counterfeit M•A•C. Once made aware of a company selling or distributing their products they'll keep an eye on that company for a very long time.

She probably still stalks this site or has an accomplice who does. Seriously, though, she had to know someone would report her if she followed through. As for her customers... this is why consumers are duped all the time. Uninformed or just don't care, they blindly buy something, despite questioning authenticity because they want a "deal." Give me the real stuff any day, at least I won't wonder what crap is going on my skin or in my body...

 

[kawaiimeows]

Originally Posted by zadidoll /img/forum/go_quote.gif

Ok reading that made me curious to what else she wrote on her wall. The funny thing is NO ONE has reported her, least not yet to my knowledge. It's good that's she not going to distribute it since she seems to knows the lipsticks are fake. Like I wrote above, don't mess with M•A•C because they do go after people who sell and distribute counterfeit M•A•C. Once made aware of a company selling or distributing their products they'll keep an eye on that company for a very long time.

Yeah I haven't seen anyone flat out say anything about reporting, just that there are things that can happen if one is reported. She's probably reading this topic though and is trying to save her skin.

 

[Meahlea]

Even if someone did report her already, surely even MAC doesn't work on Easter Sunday.

 

[ashleyanner]

She probably realized it was a dumb move on her part and is using this thread as her scapegoat/excuse. Whatever, those ladies who were going to receive those lipsticks are better off anyways....there's no telling what they would have been slathering on their lips.

 

[zadidoll]

I do have to give her kudos for NOT sending it out, if she indeed does not send it out. But is she getting the stuff from the same "3rd party vendor" as the rest of her products? If so that would make me question the authenticity of the other products she's sending out because if the third party vendors sells counterfeit M•A•C products then it's highly possible the rest are counterfeit as well.

I just don't get why she doesn't just ink out deals with companies DIRECTLY. Birchbox does it, Ipsy does it, Beauty Army does it. I know of at least 1,500 big name brands so why not directly work with those companies versus buying from some sketchy 3rd party vendor that most likely is selling counterfeit products? Best way to make contacts is to GO to the trade shows (not IMATS but the big name ones open to buyers and pro only) as a buyer and set up meetings to purchase product directly from the company or work out deals with those companies to distribute their products. This is how legitimate companies go about things.

 

[beautymadn3ss]

edited kawaii posted it XD

 

[zadidoll]

Good intentions or not, M•A•C is very tight on who distributes their products. As I mentioned before, even those with Pro Cards are highly restricted on how we can use our cards. From M•A•C Pro website:

https://www.maccosmetics.com/macpro/cms/functional/terms.tmpl 2. Products and Services for Personal Use    The products and services available on the Site, and any samples thereof we may provide to you, are for personal use only. You may not sell or resell any of the services or samples thereof, you receive from us. We reserve the right, with or without notice, to cancel or reduce the quantity of any order to be filled or products or services to be provided to you that we believe, in our sole discretion, may result in the violation of our Terms and Conditions.

Even "public" M•A•C site it states this:

http://www.maccosmetics.com/cms/customer_service/terms.tmpl 2. Products and Services for Personal Use The products and services available on the Site, and any samples thereof we may provide to you, are for personal use only. You may not sell or resell any of the services or samples thereof, you receive from us. We reserve the right, with or without notice, to cancel or reduce the quantity of any order to be filled or products or services to be provided to you that we believe, in our sole discretion, may result in the violation of our Terms and Conditions.

So technically even products you buy full price from them cannot be sold or resold per their terms of use. Any 3rd party vendors she's buying from is illegally selling M•A•C and her distributing it is still illegal. If it's counterfeit even more so on both her part and the 3rd party vendors' part. She's aware now - obviously by her post mentioning us - that the M•A•C products she was offering could not be distributed and are most likely counterfeit. 

 

[Hellocat4]

"Red Carpet Box {redacted}--We cannot even answer for ourselves on this forum without paying a fee. That is more regrettable that we cannot even defend our positions without a fee. Only our clients or certain people on this page may post as long as they are not employees of our company. It was most imperative that the donations came first (Sheila and Jordan) and swallow any sourness that may come about. We have offered to gift every moderator on the forum a free gift box and it was denied also. This is our only outlet to express ourselves, on our FB page. Nothing offensive or bad will be said about the main administrator of her page or her forum. We only want peace. We started this as I myself became ill (am ill) and needed something desperately to put my energies into, to stop the hurt of my husband dying from cancer (you never forget that kind of hurt after a loss from cancer). When I met Sheila and then heard about Jordan, I knew my real cause was to create a place where clients get a little bit of pampering in their mailbox while helping others heals my own heart. Thank you for your feedback to Red Carpet Box. Hope your weekend is bright!"

She is full of it!  Her reasons for starting the co. keep changing. She didn't hear abt Jordan until after she started rcb. Fairly recently, I might add. Also, isn't she married to a businessman?  And she is passively aggressively encouraging her customers to come post on mut, rather than to come here and address things as herself!  She needs to grow up, be a woman, and address these concerns on her own if she's so worried abt what is said here. Funny how she is the only person in the world who has to pay loads of $ to post on this free forum.  So sick of her portraying herself as a poor, innocent, victim. 

I'm glad she is not sending out the fake Mac, regardless.  She doesn't seem to understand that even if it is a "gift", it isn't allowed, per Mac's terms that zadi referenced. 

Furthermore, I don't think anyone has reported her to Mac- she is using that as another example of her "persecution"

finally, she should be a little more upbeat on her fb page. Her attitude is too downtrodden, and the overall vibe is very woe-is-me.  Try to look at the bright side of things and portray a more positive attitude.

(Sorry, had to remove the full name of the person on FB.)

 

[Jamie P]

Wow this actually has me a little irritated. How can she blame us as a forum for her not being able to commit a felony? By all means, sell that "mac" lipstick. Or "gift" it I mean. I have no problem with her trying to start a business. Or donate to cancer funds. I have a HUGE issue with her blaming others for her not being able to do something that is AGAINST THE LAW!! If you want to start a business you need to LEARN what is allowed and what is not. Had I never heard of her company before and I stumbled across that post, I would have told her what she was doing was illegal. I almost want to post to explain that... but I know it wouldn't get anywhere. I would be made to look like some terrible person trying to ruin her business. Sheesh.