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Lol those glasses with the DG on them from the video are from ebay because I bought myself a pair of those from there for like $5 a few months ago, and the lipgloss was at Ulta awhile ago for like 2/$1.. this doesn't even look like a monthly sub it looks like a package a friend would send to someone of some crap put together lol

 
Originally Posted by TacomaGirl /img/forum/go_quote.gif

She says she's revamping her business model. Didn't she already do this once before?
So did she close down or still going at it?

 
I just checked the Facebook page - looks like she is still at it.  I don't understand how people continue to pay for her junk?! It looks like she is even trying to raise her prices.  I saw something about if you want to continue getting either a purse or cosmetic bag with your box it will run an extra $12.  So if you pay the reg price (which I think is like $25 PLUS shipping) you get a box of outdated, ebay lot stuff.  Sorry - but I just don't get it. 

 
I thought she was trying to charge $70 a box, but was forced to reduce her prices back down to $20 because she couldn't drum up enough business.  I think she uses this as a reason she cannot give $ to cancer patients after all-too little sales.  She then said she would donate $100 of her own personal $ from her savings acct., but is now talking abt donating clothing to the little patient and her sibling.

 
Um, okay, this is disturbing. 

If you Google "Paricia West Martin", at the bottom of the first page of results is the following notice:

In response to a legal request submitted to Google, we have removed 2 result(s) from this page. If you wish, you may read more about the request at ChillingEffects.org.

When you click through to Chilling Effects, it shows that it's for a Cease & Desist order or some other legal threat. It is not yet posted, but it will be once they process it. 

This is just another WTF? moment...

 
I looked up that "chillingeffects.org" on wikipedia.  Apparently in 2001 the Church of Scientology demanded Google not show links to an anti-Scientology site.  Google caved.  This concerned a legal activist organization about the "chilling effect" that unregulated cease-and-desist letters can potentially have on free speech, so they set up this "clearinghouse" where you can look up info about the particular cease-and-desist.  in 2002 Google started submitting notices they received to the archive, and then linking the archive.

Maybe this means she sent one of her cease-and-desist letters demanding Google remove some results, and they did so but added the archive link.

 
Here she goes again: 

Zadidoll left out a few things.   I do in fact have a tax ID number, this is how wholesalers may purchase in bulk.  I admitted that my first month I was sold expired product, but unknowingly.  Discontinued lines are not considered expired and there are even websites out there whom are absolutely legitimate that vend discontinued lines.  As long as they are sealed and never opened, the product is absolutely usable.  I also fully disclose that the reason I am able to provide full-sized samples versus samples that are tiny foils is that I have a wholesaler account with many vendors and believe it or not, you can absolutely buy premium name brands whether a discontinued line or not.  Not all of my product lines are discontinued.     Also, she in fact has done the most damage by contacting my sponsors both large and small.  Almost every single one.  It is called tortuous interference.  She even went so far to contact a company that I was test-phasing a logo saying that I was using their logo (even with a stamped copyright of their product all across it) and using it for free.  She or someone she suggested contacted my friend, Ofra Gaito who provided me with samples for my company and she is a large cosmetics company, Ofra Cosmetics.   I do not send out people to their website to speak for me and I do not and cannot speak for myself unless I am paid member on their website.  It seems a bit unfair that you cannot even rebut on a ''public forum'' unless you pay, and then seems doubly unfair that even my friends who have given honest opinions have been banned or deleted their posts.  It is all a circus that is not understood by me      I don't mention having a brain tumor openly to garner sales. I had disclosed that at one time to some of the members or even on FB because like others I was scared.  I am well pleased to announce the tumor is now nothing but an empty sella (empty sella syndrome) and a business woman whom wants to help her business, not wallow in pity and not help myself.  If you take a look at their forum, I have also have examples of where the members (many of whom have not bought from me) mock my disease, seeking me to quit what I love, and even diagnosed from a random person that I have a mental illness.  They mentioned that even possibly my photos were not me.  I am a signed model with an actual agency I will not disclose on this website nor their business address and I am 37 years of age as a professional.  I do not agree that I am narcissistic, it is my other profession and I have a large family to support.      I only mention law or litigation because it is in fact if you do not absolutely KNOW the facts that I have a legitimate Federal Tax ID, I buy from wholesalers and keep making up nonsense that affects my business, I do have rights.     It is curious that makeuptalk encourages all forms of public speech unless its paid for.  That is why I came to Ripoff Report ONLY.  I don't want to advertise with them, but having to pay for a post in a thread gone out of hand to defend your character, your reputation and even your business is ridiculous.  I am not paying to such people who would go to all lengths to destroy you, mock you, and contact personal relationships with the people I do business with.  All the rest is simply petty.   Paypal has only refunded one of my orders because the  buyer did it correctly.  She returned the items and I as the owner refunded her.     We only use Paypal for buyer AND seller protection.  We will also replace defective items and have done so at our cost, even though it was not policy to pay for shipping, we have at many times.  Whenever there was a Paypal dispute, the answer from the client buying from us from makeuptalk most often is ''I threw it in the trash."  "I gave it to a relative."  They post these things and then  Paypal sees these posts and one was even won in less than a day in favor of Red Carpet Box.  This is not bragging, it just isn't sensible.   We have very much upgraded our business, learning in the process, looking for expiration dates and  we still love very much what we do.  We are improving our services minute by minute.   Zadidoll,  I would like to say I am apologetic and to all of makeuptalk whom with it did not go well in the beginning or even now.  I am forgiving, no longer want this sort of drama associated with my company.  If you would like to contact me, I'll send you a gratis February bag if you can accept my apologies. If you need a personal copy of my papers, I will do that, too.  I do hope we can shake hands and be comfortable with one another, even benefiting one another.  I am about to do a special fundraiser through RCB and I'd love to have you involved.  You  having a bag in your hand is the only way you can fully know what lately I have done for Red Carpet Box.  If there is anything else I can do for you, please let me know.  I know I cannot post on the MUT forum, but if there is anything also I could do for your moderators, please let me know.  Red Carpet Box is still working on their new website, as well.  Best wishes.  
 
Originally Posted by Hellocat4 /img/forum/go_quote.gif

Here she goes again: 

Zadidoll left out a few things.   I do in fact have a tax ID number, this is how wholesalers may purchase in bulk.  I admitted that my first month I was sold expired product, but unknowingly.  Discontinued lines are not considered expired and there are even websites out there whom are absolutely legitimate that vend discontinued lines.  As long as they are sealed and never opened, the product is absolutely usable.  I also fully disclose that the reason I am able to provide full-sized samples versus samples that are tiny foils is that I have a wholesaler account with many vendors and believe it or not, you can absolutely buy premium name brands whether a discontinued line or not.  Not all of my product lines are discontinued.     Also, she in fact has done the most damage by contacting my sponsors both large and small.  Almost every single one.  It is called tortuous interference.  She even went so far to contact a company that I was test-phasing a logo saying that I was using their logo (even with a stamped copyright of their product all across it) and using it for free.  She or someone she suggested contacted my friend, Ofra Gaito who provided me with samples for my company and she is a large cosmetics company, Ofra Cosmetics.   I do not send out people to their website to speak for me and I do not and cannot speak for myself unless I am paid member on their website.  It seems a bit unfair that you cannot even rebut on a ''public forum'' unless you pay, and then seems doubly unfair that even my friends who have given honest opinions have been banned or deleted their posts.  It is all a circus that is not understood by me      I don't mention having a brain tumor openly to garner sales. I had disclosed that at one time to some of the members or even on FB because like others I was scared.  I am well pleased to announce the tumor is now nothing but an empty sella (empty sella syndrome) and a business woman whom wants to help her business, not wallow in pity and not help myself.  If you take a look at their forum, I have also have examples of where the members (many of whom have not bought from me) mock my disease, seeking me to quit what I love, and even diagnosed from a random person that I have a mental illness.  They mentioned that even possibly my photos were not me.  I am a signed model with an actual agency I will not disclose on this website nor their business address and I am 37 years of age as a professional.  I do not agree that I am narcissistic, it is my other profession and I have a large family to support.      I only mention law or litigation because it is in fact if you do not absolutely KNOW the facts that I have a legitimate Federal Tax ID, I buy from wholesalers and keep making up nonsense that affects my business, I do have rights.     It is curious that makeuptalk encourages all forms of public speech unless its paid for.  That is why I came to Ripoff Report ONLY.  I don't want to advertise with them, but having to pay for a post in a thread gone out of hand to defend your character, your reputation and even your business is ridiculous.  I am not paying to such people who would go to all lengths to destroy you, mock you, and contact personal relationships with the people I do business with.  All the rest is simply petty.   Paypal has only refunded one of my orders because the  buyer did it correctly.  She returned the items and I as the owner refunded her.     We only use Paypal for buyer AND seller protection.  We will also replace defective items and have done so at our cost, even though it was not policy to pay for shipping, we have at many times.  Whenever there was a Paypal dispute, the answer from the client buying from us from makeuptalk most often is ''I threw it in the trash."  "I gave it to a relative."  They post these things and then  Paypal sees these posts and one was even won in less than a day in favor of Red Carpet Box.  This is not bragging, it just isn't sensible.   We have very much upgraded our business, learning in the process, looking for expiration dates and  we still love very much what we do.  We are improving our services minute by minute.   Zadidoll,  I would like to say I am apologetic and to all of makeuptalk whom with it did not go well in the beginning or even now.  I am forgiving, no longer want this sort of drama associated with my company.  If you would like to contact me, I'll send you a gratis February bag if you can accept my apologies. If you need a personal copy of my papers, I will do that, too.  I do hope we can shake hands and be comfortable with one another, even benefiting one another.  I am about to do a special fundraiser through RCB and I'd love to have you involved.  You  having a bag in your hand is the only way you can fully know what lately I have done for Red Carpet Box.  If there is anything else I can do for you, please let me know.  I know I cannot post on the MUT forum, but if there is anything also I could do for your moderators, please let me know.  Red Carpet Box is still working on their new website, as well.  Best wishes.  
Wow. What a wackadoodle!. She's really really bad at sucking up, if that's what she's trying to do

 
I'm just wondering what results on her NAME she found so injurious that she felt the desire to take Google on? I'm guessing once they catch up to the backlog, they may change their minds, they're not the cavers that, say, Yahoo! is, generally speaking. 

 
Why is she STILL so obsessed with MUT and Zadi. This topic hasn't even been *that* buzzing lately (as opposed to how it was months ago) because it's just the same old same old yard sale box crap so now we're usually just like "oh" and move on. It seems like once every few months she comes out of the woodwork making a long stream of consciousness post about her cancer, about how MUT only allows paid freedom of speech, about how she buys from wholesalers, etc.

 
Why is she STILL so obsessed with MUT and Zadi. This topic hasn't even been *that* buzzing lately (as opposed to how it was months ago) because it's just the same old same old yard sale box crap so now we're usually just like "oh" and move on. It seems like once every few months she comes out of the woodwork making a long stream of consciousness post about her cancer, about how MUT only allows paid freedom of speech, about how she buys from wholesalers, etc.
That post is from more than a month ago, so I'm not sure why it's suddenly being posted now.
 
Originally Posted by meaganola /img/forum/go_quote.gif

That post is from more than a month ago, so I'm not sure why it's suddenly being posted now.
hah, you're right. Idk why either because it wasn't bumped to the top of the facebook page or anything.

 
I haven't visited RCB's facebook in a while, primarily because I'm uncomfortable with the way the business is run. On a whim, I checked it out to see if it still existed, and still find it pretty bizarre. It looks like they've revamped a little, or are trying to. It sounds like she's discontinuing the purses, and is now offering some actual subscription options. A couple of things jumped out at me. There's a product she's putting into the box, a MAC lipstick. There's some question to its authenticity (IMO it's a no brainer that it's fake due to MAC keeping a tight grip on their distribution since they are often counterfeited) because there's no label, so she asked via facebook if her clients wanted her to include it. There was a handful of those who said they didn't have a problem with it, with somehow turned into a " the majority do want them." Anyway, most of these customers are aware of this company sending discontinued products and seem to not care, so more power to them. What I found really off putting was that she decided to include the lipstick as a  free gift, but with the caveat that they have to agree to not say anything bad about the item on FB or anywhere else, or hold RCB liable for any dissatisfaction with the lipstick. Like...whaaaa?

In addition, I really don't like all the references to her out of pocket cost for her supplies. I think it's tacky for any business to mention things like that. There's also a lack of consistency in her offerings. Assorted bags at different price points, charity packages, raffle tickets to encourage donations, an option to add a bag at an additional cost, random purses for sale, etc. It's confusing, and makes her page look cluttered.

I actually think the founder is nice and has good intentions. It's clear that she's trying, but essentially, I just feel like she's not great at this.
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I also think several of her fans comment only to increase their chances of getting free stuff. Which happens with any company, so that's not really surprising. People flock towards freebies.

 
The fake Mac makeup is disturbing. I just read how she spun the story, and believe it or not, customers are falling for it!  This is illegal (distributing counterfeit makeup).  I noticed that every time the owner knowingly distributes crappy products, she markets them as "free gift" as a ploy to keep customers from complaining. Who's going to complain over a "free" gift, right?

Red Carpet Box Everyone! We have a special solution to this issue! We are gifting THESE lipsticks for FREE but you must sign on FB on our latest post to hold us harmless and not compromise our business or our ability to donate funds! It is a miracle and we prayed, [redacted per request] was my angel to this company and to our survivors of CANCER! Like · Reply · Friday at 6:44pm

  Another interesting thing I came across on her fb- peculiar, I should say: she always feels the need to id her spouse w/ his "occupation". For example, "businessman husband" and "physician husband". Phoney-baloney and unpro!   mod note: name from FB post removed per request of that person.
 
She's offering M•A•C? They have a ZERO tolerance for their products to be distributed outside of their company or authorized companies (Macy's, Belk and I want to say Nordstrom). There was (or is, could be still around under a different name) on FB that sold "replica" (aka fake) M•A•C and of course M•A•C had that FB wall shut down once it was reported to them. Her offering M•A•C be it real or counterfeit could cause her more problems than those of us on MUT who merely complain about what she does. If someone reports it to M•A•C they'll look into it and force her not to distribute it or they'll go to FB and get her wall shut down. Like I said, they have a zero tolerance for it.

 
She's offering M•A•C? They have a ZERO tolerance for their products to be distributed outside of their company or authorized companies (Macy's, Belk and I want to say Nordstrom).
I think they're even picky about which stores within a chain that they will sell at: Nordstrom is the primary store for MAC in the Seattle and Portland areas. Unless it's changed in the Seattle area since I moved away a few years ago, I know of *one* Macy's in both areas that carries MAC: the one at Redmond Town Center in Redmond, aka the home of Microsoft. There is (or at least was, as of October 2008) no Nordstrom in Redmond. None of the Macy's stores in any mall/area (downtown stores in both cities are not in malls) carry MAC, but we're practically infested with Nordstrom, so we're definitely not MAC deprived.
 

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