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I read on this often but since my name has been thrown into the mix yet again although I am no longer a customer and no longer speak of the company how I got brought back into this is beyond me. I guess I need to start filing reports.

 
Originally Posted by DiorAdora /img/forum/go_quote.gif

I read on this often but since my name has been thrown into the mix yet again although I am no longer a customer and no longer speak of the company how I got brought back into this is beyond me. I guess I need to start filing reports.
Well, to be fair, she wrote them on Oct 2nd, so she hasn't really brought anything back up, they were just never mentioned on MuT until now. Not that I think what she did was right by any means, but it isn't some new way she is continuing to hold a grudge against you or anything.

 
I think you should. She posted your address in that Rip Off Report complaint which means she's SHARING your personal information with god knows who.

 
she has numerous times given my personal information out to many others who have contacted me about the situation. How am I a theif after purchasing 2 boxes which adds up to 50$ is beyond me? I will be taking the next level of actions toward this company.

 
She is also not in a real law school. No way someone who writes like that could get into a decent law school. She would also know from Con Law day one that she has no case and no provable claim related to any stifling of free expression. The law only applies to government prohibiting free speech and expression. A private entity can do whatever. She has no inherent legal right to  post on MUT. 

She also would have no claim since no one has done anything to slander or libel her.

Oh, Dioradora! I am sorry! She not only called you awful names, she is attacking you.

And BTW, I have seen the screenshots of the awful things she wrote to some people on here. Combined with these attacks, it really shows that this woman needs help.

Originally Posted by Hellocat4 /img/forum/go_quote.gif

"What is being said is beyond freedom of speech, it is also tortuous interference when people deny you the right to speak on your own company's behalf unless you pay them thousands of dollars a year."
Patty should allow ALL feedback, good AND bad, on her fb page. I am about ready to create a profile for rcb on rip off report. I can't think of a more deserving co. who belongs there.
 
I would think DiorAdora would have a case to sue patty. Imagine the damage this could cause if an employer googles her and finds that.

 
Originally Posted by Playedinloops /img/forum/go_quote.gif

Well, to be fair, she wrote them on Oct 2nd, so she hasn't really brought anything back up, they were just never mentioned on MuT until now. Not that I think what she did was right by any means, but it isn't some new way she is continuing to hold a grudge against you or anything.
I have to agree with you, Jenna. I don't condone any of those posts, but to me they read like late night ramblings written in the heat of the moment. I think any logical person would have a hard time taking it seriously. But it really sucks that she's sharing your info, Dior. I would be extremely upset by that.

 
Originally Posted by bluelion /img/forum/go_quote.gif


I have to agree with you, Jenna. I don't condone any of those posts, but to me they read like late night ramblings written in the heat of the moment. I think any logical person would have a hard time taking it seriously. But it really sucks that she's sharing your info, Dior. I would be extremely upset by that.
well pretty much any and every post i've seen her make sounds like that honestly. which is why she should just turn off the computer and let someone else handle the PR.

 
While the posts she made were over a month ago the fact is that she posted Dior's real name and address in a public venue in order to do what? It doesn't matter if the post was made today, last week or last month but no one has the right to take someone's personal address - one given in a business transaction - and post it online! Luckily it's Dior's PO Box and not actual home address but it's absolutely scary to think that Patty would do something like that and makes you wonder why else has she done.

 
To be fair? What is fair about ripping people off and posting their personal information in public?

Originally Posted by Playedinloops /img/forum/go_quote.gif

Well, to be fair, she wrote them on Oct 2nd, so she hasn't really brought anything back up, they were just never mentioned on MuT until now. Not that I think what she did was right by any means, but it isn't some new way she is continuing to hold a grudge against you or anything.
 
Playedinloops does have a point that the reports were made in early October and are about six weeks old still, it's wrong of Patty to do that ESPECIALLY since one of the reports is against a former customer whose personal address was posted. But it does show that we're not out stalking her as she has claimed since we didn't realize these false and inaccurate complaints of hers were made weeks ago.

 
Originally Posted by zadidoll /img/forum/go_quote.gif

While the posts she made were over a month ago the fact is that she posted Dior's real name and address in a public venue in order to do what? It doesn't matter if the post was made today, last week or last month but no one has the right to take someone's personal address - one given in a business transaction - and post it online! Luckily it's Dior's PO Box and not actual home address but it's absolutely scary to think that Patty would do something like that and makes you wonder why else has she done.
I agree completely, and I think that Dior should be contacting at the very least Ripoff Report to get them to take it down, but to paint it as some new attack on MuT/their users is entirely false. 

 
Originally Posted by nelliebelle1197 /img/forum/go_quote.gif

To be fair? What is fair about ripping people off and posting their personal information in public?
To be fair to Patty (which I think everyone deserves fair treatment or at least to have the entire incident fully examined before being personally attacked and called crazy), its not like she is holding on to some grudge months after the event happened. No one mentioned that on here. 

Like I said, I don't agree with what she has done AT ALL, but it isn't like she wrote these posts a month and a half after everything went down as some new way to dredge up old drama. She wrote them WHILE the drama was still happening.

 
Which was crazy  in the first place. I don't think anyone is painting it as new - it FEELS shocking because it was just uncovered. And frankly, if she was actually a good person who wanted this to go away she would have gone back and removed what was done irrationally in the heat of passion and removed the posts.

Originally Posted by Playedinloops /img/forum/go_quote.gif

To be fair to Patty (which I think everyone deserves fair treatment or at least to have the entire incident fully examined before being personally attacked and called crazy), its not like she is holding on to some grudge months after the event happened. No one mentioned that on here. 

Like I said, I don't agree with what she has done AT ALL, but it isn't like she wrote these posts a month and a half after everything went down as some new way to dredge up old drama. She wrote them WHILE the drama was still happening.
 
Originally Posted by mamamultimedia /img/forum/go_quote.gif

@kawaiimeows - Yep, "my".  Do you have a problem with my wording?  I am also a customer, and paid $25 to get a box.  Geez.

@daylah - Thank you for having the decency to reply without being totally rude and mean.  I completely agree with everything that you are saying.   While I am admittedly Patty's friend, I am also a customer.  I got a box just like everyone else's and I got exactly what she advertised.  She showed pictures of product and let people know what she was sending before it even went out.  The one change that she had to make (she couldn't send the purse because of the size of the box), she informed people before the packages ever went out (with plenty of time for people to cancel their order).  And yes, I totally agree with you and everyone else -  illness does not justify bad business!  I will restate that the reason I shared her personal information with this forum was so that people would better understand her intentions and be aware that she is coming from a good place.  

I am done with all this.  I feel sad for my friend to have to deal with such a community which seems to have somewhat ganged up on her, but I am also aware that this is a small fish bowl in a large ocean.  It seems that the only problems that she has had have come from this group.  I do hope that paypal sorts out any disputes fairly, and that both parties learn whatever lessons they need to learn from all of this, and that my friend's business goes on to be successful.  
You have to understand that this is the Internet.  Anything googled about that particular box, person, company will pop in google under this particular thread.

You should let your friend know as a Business owner its good to steer clear of negative press. Negative press is good press in most cases.

I started a brand and got bad reviews on one magazine even though I was well supported and new what my "Good intentions" were.

By responding to anything negative you are just making yourself look bad...like a celebrity attacking Paparazzi you just cant...you look bad not them.

This is a sincere response to what your going through.  My suggestions for you is to stay away unless your are going to actively participate in other threads NOT just Red Carpet box.

If you read and educate yourself on the other companies you will know and understand that people here are just "Brutally" honest and its about the most popular companies and products or the least popular.

This forum is honesty and honestly your defensive posts will do nothing but cause and uproar.  Just let people post their opinions on this thread since this is what it is made for.

Please tell your friend if she feels that she is being affected by this Thread...then maybe she needs a new approach...clearly her Target Market is smarter than what she thought.

 
Jen emailed me about a month ago and asked me to do a review in exchange for a free box. I declined for obvious reasons, but she never tried to "buy" a positive review or anything. Most companies that contact bloggers for reviews offer to send their products for free so nothing she did was out of the norm in that respect.

 
You're totally right, girly. I kind of jumped the gun on that one due to the background of rcb and got suspicious of the reviews because of how glowing they all are. They probably do that with any co. who sends them products. That would be hard as a reviewer. I probably would feel some obligation to give a good report if I received my stuff for free. I wouldn't make a good reviewer lol.

 
Originally Posted by Hellocat4 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
You're totally right, girly. I kind of jumped the gun on that one due to the background of rcb and got suspicious of the reviews because of how glowing they all are. They probably do that with any co. who sends them products. That would be hard as a reviewer. I probably would feel some obligation to give a good report if I received my stuff for free. I wouldn't make a good reviewer lol.
LOL Not me, I'm brutally honest but I do try to temper my reviews on products I get for free by making it clear that the product didn't work for me or why I didn't like the product. I was given several full size products from BeFine (the same company that had Birchbox related drama back in April) and I have to post my reviews on it soon. Two of the reviews - one for the scrub and another for the mint mask - won't be positive because I had reactions with both products but my skin is delicate to begin with so just because it didn't work for me doesn't mean it's a bad product, just one I won't use again and would say that anyone with sensitive skin may want to obtain a sample before committing to a full size tube of either product. Then there was my review of an AHAVA mud mask that was also given to me for free and that wasn't a positive review since I had a reaction to that within minutes but the packaging said it was safe for sensitive skin while the website states don't use if you have sensitive skin.

A good reviewer won't be swayed by the fact it was free or may the hope that they may get something from that company for free down the line. Most readers know when a blogger is BSing about a product but unfortunately there are some readers that don't so hopefully they do more reading on a company before anything.

 

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