Red Carpet Box

[lunadust]

I wish she would stop calling it a subscription when its not.

 

[bluelion]

The random assortment of items has given me new appreciation for other companies' themed boxes. They don't always succeed, but you can usually see the effort.

 

[Hellocat4]

It looks like patty is back on the warpath, and making her own co. look even worse in the process. Here is a small except: "I know this is wrong and I have contacted Irene Byron and her employee known as Zadidoll to cease and desist interfering with my business and they laughed at me multiple times when I informed them I now had to hire an attorney to keep my business safe. I have a brain tumor and I created this company to create some joy in my life and instead I have been harassed mercilessly and the postings of my company will not go away unless I pay their fees of the above mentioned ''programs''."

 

[Caryatid]

Cancer and cease & desists. Throw in some deformation and you have yourself a startup starter kit.

Seriously, I have never seen a "joyful" enterprise be so mean-spirited. If that's how she's getting over a brain tumor, she needs to find something that's a hell of a lot more positive.

 

[kawaiimeows]

Originally Posted by Hellocat4 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
It looks like patty is back on the warpath, and making her own co. look even worse in the process.

Here is a small except:

"I know this is wrong and I have contacted Irene Byron and her employee known as Zadidoll to cease and desist interfering with my business and they laughed at me multiple times when I informed them I now had to hire an attorney to keep my business safe. I have a brain tumor and I created this company to create some joy in my life and instead I have been harassed mercilessly and the postings of my company will not go away unless I pay their fees of the above mentioned ''programs''."

funny because that jen girl posted a while back on her own facebook that patty made RCB to pay for medical bills.

also how do they have almost 700 likes on their facebook now? buying likes?

 

[Hellocat4]

Not only are they buying likes, they are also buying positive reviews from bloggers.  I did not realize how shady that aspect can be.  I know some bloggers are honest, but seeing what I have concerning RCB and bloggers' reviews, it really makes me suspicious when products are provided to the blogger to "honestly review".

 

[nelliebelle1197]

Can someone please PM that stuff to Zadi?

 

[lunadust]

Originally Posted by Hellocat4 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
It looks like patty is back on the warpath, and making her own co. look even worse in the process.

Here is a small except:

"I know this is wrong and I have contacted Irene Byron and her employee known as Zadidoll to cease and desist interfering with my business and they laughed at me multiple times when I informed them I now had to hire an attorney to keep my business safe. I have a brain tumor and I created this company to create some joy in my life and instead I have been harassed mercilessly and the postings of my company will not go away unless I pay their fees of the above mentioned ''programs''."

where was this?

 

[zadidoll]

Originally Posted by Hellocat4 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
It looks like patty is back on the warpath, and making her own co. look even worse in the process.

Here is a small except:

"I know this is wrong and I have contacted Irene Byron and her employee known as Zadidoll to cease and desist interfering with my business and they laughed at me multiple times when I informed them I now had to hire an attorney to keep my business safe. I have a brain tumor and I created this company to create some joy in my life and instead I have been harassed mercilessly and the postings of my company will not go away unless I pay their fees of the above mentioned ''programs''."

I thought she already did hire an attorney since she's been making the same threats since September.

Here's the thing she fails to understand, Makeup Talk is a PRIVATE forum, we're not Craiglist or Facebook (and even Facebook has rules for businesses to follow otherwise their accounts can be shut down). Posts about RCB won't be removed just because she doesn't like the negative attention her company has had, our members come first not making a company owner happy with lies about how wonderful her company is. If the members who post on MUT have had negative experiences with RCB then they have the right to express that. Makeup Talk is about TALKING about the products and services revolving around the beauty industry. 

 

[bluelion]

Yeah, where did you find that? The same threat was posted earlier on this thread, unless she's trying it again?

I think it's pretty easy to get likes when there's free stuff involved, but she probably won't get the same amount of actual buyers.

 

[Nightgem]

Saw one of the bloggers I follow posting about this "great deal" this morning. I messaged her and told her that in no way shape or form would I or anyone else I know, would be caught dead ordering from them. I also regretfully informed her that I would no longer be following her site or any other blogger site that endorses this company. Since I pretty much let all my FB peeps up to date on these subs   from all your reviews and experiences)  they all know to stay away from this shady, manipulating business. Like Kawaiimeows said, first that it was for money for medical bills (which I questioned in an earlier post) and now it's a way to bring joy into her life.....pfffttt. Maybe I should set up a company send out shoddy, expired products and say I'm doing this to pay my medical bills because I have a bad heart and blah blah blah....uuhh no screw that I know BS when I see it. Seriously she's gonna hire an attorney when she needs the funds for medical bills? I kept an attorney on retainer while I ran my own business and they don't come cheap and when you have them work on a cease and desit it's gonna cost some money...ohh wait again she has no money hmmmm...

 

[QueenG]

She didn't try to buy my review. And I told all my readers to steer clear of this one!

 

[bluepearl]

Here's the thing she fails to understand, Makeup Talk is a PRIVATE forum, we're not Craiglist or Facebook (and even Facebook has rules for businesses to follow otherwise their accounts can be shut down). Posts about RCB won't be removed just because she doesn't like the negative attention her company has had, our members come first not making a company owner happy with lies about how wonderful her company is. If the members who post on MUT have had negative experiences with RCB then they have the right to express that. Makeup Talk is about TALKING about the products and services revolving around the beauty industry. 

Zadi, I hope this goes without saying, but we're the choir here. You and MUT have done *nothing* even remotely unprofessional or questionable in all this and this fiasco has actually made you and MUT look all the better and more fair in how it's been handled. Kudos to you and MUT in general for keeping this thread on-topic, promoting fair business practices, advocating for consumers, and yes - despite what Patty/RCB thinks - for *promoting* and protecting independent businesses by differentiating the bad from the good. I just didn't want you to think for a moment that you had one iota of explaining to do. <3

 

[zadidoll]

Thank you for your support. /emoticons/[email protected] 2x" width="20" height="20" />

I hope she realizes that MUT members are going to post what they want be it positive or negative and that the members are going to protect each other as best as possible when it comes to bad products, bad customer service and potential scams.

 

[Dalylah]

Originally Posted by bluepearl /img/forum/go_quote.gif

Zadi, I hope this goes without saying, but we're the choir here. You and MUT have done *nothing* even remotely unprofessional or questionable in all this and this fiasco has actually made you and MUT look all the better and more fair in how it's been handled. Kudos to you and MUT in general for keeping this thread on-topic, promoting fair business practices, advocating for consumers, and yes - despite what Patty/RCB thinks - for *promoting* and protecting independent businesses by differentiating the bad from the good.

I just didn't want you to think for a moment that you had one iota of explaining to do. <3

I couldn't agree with this more. We all hate getting screwed over and scammed. The only way to avoid it is for us to let one another know. Zadi just happens to be the punching bag in this particular case. The good news is that many of us have her back, even if we don't always voice it openly on forums.

 

[Hellocat4]

It is the last paragraph she posted on ripoffreport. What is funny, is how she is complaining abt zadi, yet offers no proof of her allegations. She posts her supposed correspondence with za, which does not paint mut or za in the negative light she is trying to get people to see. Her whole complaint is abt how mut "coerced" her into purchasing a service because they saw her being mercilessly attacked. "Irene Byron of makeuptalk.com, a popular forum for make-up buyers to review services, tried to blackmail me and coerce me into giving her ridiculous amounts of money to thwart the bad reviews her hired moderator named Zadidoll and others not employed by Irene. She promised on the phone all the negativity would diminish as she has done for other companies and she specializes in SEO for beauty companies like StarBox (according to her). She said if I didn't choose a ''plan'' she would allow the slander and damage to my business to continue. She said if I did choose an expensive plan to market my brand new company she would allow the following thread to continue in the forum which is quite cruel and not to mention not true in any way, shape, or form. Here is the thread:https://www.makeuptalk.com/t/128791/red-carpet-box/180." You can read the rest of her drivel on there, which is filled w/ grammatical errors and where she is still not able to prove her point. It is filled with lies and excuses. One lie she makes is regarding her stolen Images being a misunderstanding (which is somehow muts fault). She also claims disgruntled customers who got expired products were looking for a free deal and scammsters who purposely complained because they wanted their $ back but refused to mail back their old products. What a joke.

 

[bluepearl]

Seriously she's gonna hire an attorney when she needs the funds for medical bills? I kept an attorney on retainer while I ran my own business and they don't come cheap and when you have them work on a cease and desit it's gonna cost some money...

I genuinely hope she winds up hiring an honest/moral lawyer - one that will explain to her the concept of free speech and what does and does not constitute libel, and who won't take her money when absolutely nothing can come of it. Unfortunately, if she shops around and can fork over a $5K retainer, she *will* find a lawyer who (besides not caring about his own reputation) promises her to launch a vicious lawsuit (and that $5K will only be to get started, I hope she realizes), which has no hope of doing anything more than getting summarily dismissed while lining the unscrupulous lawyer's pockets. I mean, this really is sad all around. If you're reading this, Patty, go to your local Chamber of Commerce. They will likely have a small business resource center that has a mentoring program. Get some advice. This will be cheaper than hiring a lawyer. Read some business books focused on customer service, especially new ones written in the context of social media. And, no offense intended, maybe some therapy. Starting a business is stressful. Having a brain tumor and/or cancer is stressful too. You need a better outlet than where you're venting. I really do wish you luck. In the "old" days, we could make youthful mistakes, learn from them, and move on. Nowadays, *everything* we do is immortalized forever on the Interwebz, and if you dig your hole much deeper, you will never escape your electronic reputation. Forget ever starting another business; you'll likely find it hard to even get another *job*. Please stop your knee from jerking so hard; it's only your own head it's kicking. Think about it: which is more likely, that hundreds of random people in a very positive and friendly forum (I mean, this isn't 4chan) have it in for you and are going out of their way to make your life miserable, or... maybe... just maaaaaybe... you're the one that's out of line?

 

[Hellocat4]

Here is another one she did on same forum. Complete lies, once again: "They have caused so much interference in my daily business that literally all I have time for is damage control and hopefully new clientele by adding extra products into my beauty box this month. I am never going to fall into this trap and I don't see how small companies afford this. I explained I just got started in my business and her forum (I googled my own company) I came across does business by finding new companies like mine and no wonder so many have gone defunct if they are using this service. I found no value in her marketing and only pressure. She wants the post to stay and I am still not allowed to post there unless I pay her. Her rationale is that she can build my business better than I can but I don't believe her. I am an honest and sincere person who has tried my best and I almost feel like the pressure of this forum alone and that my company I created out of true love and joy is now defeated due to these scam forums."

 

[nelliebelle1197]

I am, for one, definitely behind you, Z!!

Originally Posted by zadidoll /img/forum/go_quote.gif

Thank you for your support. /emoticons/[email protected] 2x" width="20" height="20" />

I hope she realizes that MUT members are going to post what they want be it positive or negative and that the members are going to protect each other as best as possible when it comes to bad products, bad customer service and potential scams.

 

[lunadust]

LOL what is she doing all day that constitutes "damage control"???