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I have other grapefruit products for skin and face like the YES FOR CARROTS LINE has grapefruit and its always known to use sunscreen or stay out of sun for awhile after application. all the lemon products too and products from Michael Todd say the same thing. I dont think pointing fingers at Memebox for using citrus on skin is fair since hundreds of America products use citrus for the brightening aspect on the skin and the vitamin C. I must have more than 10 products in my house from American beauty companies that have grapefruit or lemon in it
Citrus is NOT bad for the skin it brightens and adds vitamin C. You just have to read the label to to not step out in the sun right after application, and use protection while using. Gosh, Ive known this for as long as Ive used skincare. Ive known this for decades
>I don't think pointing fingers at Memebox [...]
I said "I can't get too hard on them for that, because every other box has fragrance in their products, too, but..." and I did mean for that to include not ragging on them for the citrus, too. I understand that many American products do that too, and I also take issue with it every single time. I apologize for not being clear. I don't mean to imply that only Memebox has citrus or fragrance in the products they include, because I would say 95% of boxes do, including the ones I enjoy a lot.
>brightening aspect on the skin and the vitamin C
There are other ways to brighten your skin without using citrus oils. Such as regular, gentle exfoliation. Proper diet. Other, safer chemicals. Vitamin C can be extracted so you don't need to use it with the limonene. There are many products that are straight Vitamin C that you can use for the skin that are completely safe.
>Citrus is NOT bad for the skin
From Essential Oil Safety: A Guide for Health Care Professionals by Robert Tisserand & Rodney Young (2013):
"Hazards: Skin sensitization if oxidized, phototoxicity (low risk).
Contraindications (dermal): If applied to the skin at over maximum use level, skin must not be exposed to sunlight or sunbed rays for 12 hours.
Cautions: old or oxidized oils should be avoided.
Maximum dermal use level: 2.0%"
"NOT bad" is factually incorrect. "Low risk" is still some risk. Benefits? Yes. Risks? Yes.
>Gosh, I've known this for as long as I've used skincare. I've known this for decades
I take this to be condescending, but if you don't mean to be then I do not hold it against you. I am young so maybe I don't have as much experience as you with skin care, but I am incredibly engrossed in the literature so please don't think I don't know what I'm talking about. Just because you use things often and don't think it has an effect on your skin, doesn't mean it can't. And it doesn't mean what works for you works for everyone. And just because everyone is using something doesn't mean it's good. Sulfates, anyone? Artificial sweeteners? Just because it's natural also doesn't mean it's good.
I don't mean to start a debate, I apologize. And I'm not taking this personally or trying to be rude. I realize I write in a pretty dry manner which can be taken as being sarcastic or mean, but I don't actually feel that way, truly! I just feel that using citrus in products is the easy way out for companies and there are safer ways to do skin care. That's my opinion and I have based it on the scientific literature I've come across. If you find them helpful to you, that's great! But I would like people to know the potential risks along with the benefits.
Sorry again to start an argument. I am very passionate about skincare science. Let's get back to talking about Memebox, yeah?