The Natural Beauty Box

[islandgirl88]

If it is something you are interested in, you are still able to request a refund from them for your remaining months. They even have that posted on their website. The just refund you for the difference.

If you decide to stay with them, good luck! And i sincerly hope they start delivering what and when they say they will.
 

 

[LillyAmanda]

Sometimes, I really do wonder what it takes to convince people that a particular sub is " sub-standard"? That the company involved is not really that involved with sending out samples to the USA?

This company has failed and failed and failed. Why would anyone want to " try it" after so much negative, true, objective things have been posted?

I think it's one of the worst subs still out there. Most of the truly horrible ones went out of business. However, this company has a huge advantage- they are simply re-packaging their own branded products they make for a sampler box every month. They can do this indefinitely as long as people are gullible. I think they are extremely unprofessional and I am not a bit surprised about the used lip balm.  Many of my items in each box I ordered looked half used up ( or dried up).

The labels often do not list ingredients. There are no expiration dates that I have found. I was so leery of what I received that I threw both boxes of products away.

My level of trust in NBB based on my experiences is ZERO.  I am a mature, experienced buyer of cosmetics and skin care ( these are all skin care- another tip off that they are selling their own products) and this subscription totally does not pass the smell test in several areas.

 

 

[SubJunkie]

Prices just went up 9+ dollars for "shipping" umm yeah I will never be ordering another box. 

 

[page5]

Yes, $20 was pushing my limit - the products in the November box were not worth $29 to me (not even sure they were worth $20). I'd never order another box either. 

Anyone receive the December box yet? 

 

[Lulubelle107]

Originally Posted by SubJunkie /img/forum/go_quote.gif

Prices just went up 9+ dollars for "shipping" umm yeah I will never be ordering another box. 

The price increase combined with the other issues they are having doesn't bode well for them.  Anything over $20 for a subscription box just doesn't appeal to me.

 

[Eleda]

sorry need to post in another thread.

 

[Tuscanyb450]

Wow, This is getting better and better. Thankfully, they have taken the cork out of the bottom of their

sinking ship with a $10 price increase! 

 

 

[mellee]

They've now disabled posting to their wall:

Dear subscribers,

Thank you very much for using the products in our box, and enjoying doing business with our company. We would like to inform you that during the past week, we have been constantly attacked by a group of individuals, who are practicing slander, libel and defamation and harassing our company and employees using their fake accounts. They are making multiple attempts to ruin the reputation of our company and as it was discovered, the reputation of other companies as well. We were requested to temporarily disable our wall posts by the authorities, due to an on-going investigation. If you have any questions, wish to share your thoughts or your feedback on the Natural Beauty Box and all the products, please contact our head office directly. Thank you for your understanding and patience.

Huh?

 

[EmGee]

I wonder if they will come back  and try to do their gourmet candy subscription??

Under some other name probably??

This is just a guess..

I don't know why I'd  want a candy sub from North America since you can get so much fancy candy and foods on sale here anyways

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Originally Posted by Tuscanyb450 /img/forum/go_quote.gif

Wow, This is getting better and better. Thankfully, they have taken the cork out of the bottom of their

sinking ship with a $10 price increase! 

 

 

[SubJunkie]

Yeah the Natural Beauty Box isn't going to last much longer....

 

[nelliebelle1197]

I didn't realize this was mostly their own products! I wonder why they weren't just upfront with all this? Plenty of subs send their own products!

 

[chrisyeh2111]

I am one of the "rude" lady on their FB and I am here to let some of girls to know about TNBB.  This is warning but you can ignore me as well.

Myself purchased a TNBB back in end of Nov. 2012 for my December box.  During the December, TNBB constantly posted on FB about they had started shipping for at least 3 times. After the Christmas, I still did not get any notification or words from this company and I started worried.  Then they sent all the subscriber a e-mail saying that they had trouble to get some of the samples from their supplier, and this is the reason why they have to "skip a month".

I posted on TNBB regarding this issue, because they posted that they started shipping prior to this e-mail.  Apparently they didn't and won't admit the fact they didn't. Couple other girls also worried and posted on their FB and got ignored. From that time, I constantly checked their FB for updates and I discovered that their FB is actually censored.  TNBB deleted undesirable posts regarding their boxes and constantly replied posts in a very unprofessional manners.

Following link is one of the lady whose post was deleted by TNBB and her experience:

https://word.office.live.com/wv/WordView.aspx?FBsrc=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fdownload%2Ffile_preview.php%3Fid%3D459870814060829%26metadata&access_token=636115536%3AAVKMHJyAsBwJEGp3a4F2TS4ehoJG2Rd8XkokKdkAq1q4zQ&title=Worst+customer+service+I+have+ever+had!+%232.docx

Then I noticed about that my post regarding their Christmas Sac and TNBB box were also deleted by them, and I started to concern about this company.  I have seen many other unboxing videos and blogs about TNBB.   I LOVE natural beauty products and was eager to subscribe to TNBB as well. Then some of girls posted this link regarding Dr. Mila Emerald's credentials, I was like, WOW.

http://web.archive.org/web/20040827103517/http://healthwatcher.net/Quackerywatch/Quack-schools/ICVM-London/index.html

Two of the ladies were very polite and posted this link on to their FB to ask her to explain about this article, which was written in 2004.  We all know that some of website cannot be totally trusted and that's why the girls asked first.  Within couple hours, they post on FB threatening this two girls for a lawsuit. Combining with other insulting posts, I think that TNBB is really a problematic company at this point.  This is not the first time they threaten people for a lawsuit and report to police authority.  If you are in US, they threaten to report to FBI and Canada for RCMP.  All of this acts made people even more suspicious about Dr. Mila's credentials and the legitimacy of the company.

There are multiple ways that they manipulate their FB.  They deleted undesirable posts and create fake accounts to post positive comments.  Also, they tried to push down the undesirable comments by posting a chuck of stuff in a short period of time, to decrease the chances people seeing those comments.  The fake accounts are hard to prove, but I do have some evidence for it, rest of them are just concrete what they had done.

In addition, Dr. Emerald claims that the posts are her research and takes authorship over those facts to prove that she's a legitimate PhD.  But later on, couple other girls found out that most of "her research" statements are from various online sources such as wikipedia and other doctoral writings.  Some of girls posted on their FB asking her to clarify the situation but again, the post was replied saying that research results and wordings can be 'similar', so it is not considered as plagiarized. Not surprisingly, those comments were deleted soon after more people joined to question her research posts.  In my opinion, the identical sentence runs over 3 lines is considered plagiarism.  I think that people have every right to question her PhD validity.  Plus, most of people felt so irritated by TNBB and some of posts became more emotional and I think that is completely understandable.

At the same time, some people discovered that TNBB owns most of the brands that they put into the box. ATL international owns at least 15 brands and they did not admit this fact. Back to the late shipping of Dec. box, they told us that the late shipping was due to the suppliers sent out samples late.  If they own most of the brands featured in the box, why they blamed the late shipping on suppliers, who might be themselves. However, back months ago, one of the girl runs TNBB mentioned that they feature some items from their product lines, but they did not mention the fact that they own MOST OF THEM.  I did admit that they are some suppliers who are not themselves, but few.

I only mentioned some of problems of this company here, but I can assume you that this TNBB drama is beyond what you can think about. Some of ladies here and on FB criticize me regarding "ruining TNBB".  I have to say that I am not ruining but helping people instead.

Again,you can disregard this and think I am just trying to ruin TNBB.  If you need more information I can provide it as well. I saved tons of screenshots of their replies to back up what I said here.

 

[SusanWong]

By the way, if you are interested in which of the 16 sites they plagiarized, I have a list of them here in the response I typed to them (which of course they deleted promptly):

[SIZE=11pt]Dr. Emerald, if you really have a Ph. D and Dr. Sci, and if you’re really a researcher, why are you plagiarizing other researchers’ data and articles and posting them on TNBB’s Facebook page? Why don’t you post any researches of your own?
Please cite all the sources where you copied and pasted your information and passed them off as your own. Copying other people’s work and not giving them credit is considered plagiarism and is a serious offence. I’m astounded you did not learn this during school when you obtained your Ph. D and Dr. Sci.
I have included a list of some of the resources you’ve used to remind you to give them credit for their hard work:

1. Belle Lowe’s “Experimental Cookery From The Chemical And Physical Standpoint†and Shukla, Vijai and Bhattacharya, Kaustuv’s article “Enhancing the stability of exotic butters & oils†for your posts on the key factors causing the rancidity and spoilage of natural products, and the graphs on the stability results for the internally stabilized cosmetic butters. Some of the graphs are also directly copied from a publication by the International Food Science Centre (IFSC) in Denmark.
Links:
- http://chestofbooks.com/food/science/Experimental-Cookery/Rancidity.html#.UPNl8yc73js
- http://www.thefreelibrary.com/_/print/PrintArticle.aspx?id=111305909
- https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:HXGNVzSoLG0J:https://cp.catpoint.dk/cp/show%3Fobjectid%3D38519696%26template%3DORG+&hl=en&gl=ca&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESjOc-NAWhF2TSG5KSoky33E3QNeGHhIrPXMDYBr1UJkKx1qrz8kh8dFp8viwqdcXghyQWPDanvwL0yXChXS3G9wsq-VET5AwWKAFwUJ0hwObGdOYUtxuXGLZBQVq1cYUXt12Oiz&sig=AHIEtbThlkCp6WVWnUg1anhoaFhf_vSIYQ

2. Various sources including Saltworks (America’s Sea Salt Company) for your 3 posts on the luxury bath salts available, uses of luxury bath salts, and picture of sea salts.
Links:
- http://www.wholefoodinternet.com/Pages/Products.htm (see Stardust Raw Sea Salt Gold)
- http://www.saltworks.us/shop/product.asp?idProduct=241
- http://www.saltworks.us/shop/product.asp?idProduct=106
- http://www.saltworks.us/salt_info/si_WaterTherapy.asp
- For the full catalogue, go to: http://www.saltworks.us/docs/Wholesale-Bath-Spa-Salt-Catalog.pdf

3. Dr. Batmanghelidj’s book “Water: Rx for a Healthier Pain-Free Life†for your post on the health benefits of sea salt.
Link:
- http://curezone.com/foods/salt/vital_functions_of_salt_in_the_b.htm

4. Various sources, including Wikipedia, articles by Dr. Edward F. Group, the Live Look Better website, and the RFI (From Field  Formula) website. You can see that unlike you, Dr. Emerald, RFI’s VP Research and Development specifies where she received her training, and the company has certifications from various legitimate organizations.
Links:
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free-radical_theory_of_aging
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen_radical_absorbance_capacity
- http://www.globalhealingcenter.com/natural-health/health-benefits-of-antioxidants/
- http://livelookbetter.com/eng/lookbetter/all-you-need/570-beauty-and-skin-care-vitamins-and-antioxidants.html
- http://www.rfiingredients.com/oxyphyte.asp
- http://www.rfiingredients.com/who_we_are.asp
- http://www.rfiingredients.com/certifications.asp[/SIZE]
 

 

[EmGee]

One thing that made me a bit unsure of the Natural Beauty Store and box was they do not list the ingredients for everything <most stores do thesedays>.

And that they mention "antibacterial technology" or some "special" way of preserving products, but then do not specify what that is??

I know I buy some organic and natural soaps from another brand- Deep Steep and they say they use food grade preservatives and list all the ingredients on their products and online.

I think for natural products I am going to stick to Vitacost.com and Well.ca <for canadians>, as both sites are very reliable for shipping and have a lot of natural products.

 

[page5]

Originally Posted by EmGee /img/forum/go_quote.gif

One thing that made me a bit unsure of the Natural Beauty Store and box was they do not list the ingredients for everything <most stores do thesedays>.

And that they mention "antibacterial technology" or some "special" way of preserving products, but then do not specify what that is??

I know I buy some organic and natural soaps from another brand- Deep Steep and they say they use food grade preservatives and list all the ingredients on their products and online.

I think for natural products I am going to stick to Vitacost.com and Well.ca <for canadians>, as both sites are very reliable for shipping and have a lot of natural products.

I've been a little concerned about this as well.

Also, this is a minor point but has anyone else noticed that the calculations for the sample values are incorrect on several of the items listed on the November and December product lists? The discrepancies are not significant but it is just one more thing that gives me a negative impression of this sub service. 

 

[Missyrocks]

While I certainly don't want to be misled, unless there are sanitary issues, I still like the sub & the products are still really nice ( assuming ingredients are accurate) . Yes, stuff sounds shady, but it's still natural products & still worth the money. To me.

 

[mellee]

So did everyone else get their December box finally?  I'm still waiting.

 

[SiriusDreamer]

Originally Posted by mellee /img/forum/go_quote.gif

So did everyone else get their December box finally?  I'm still waiting.

Nope, I'm still waiting too!  I'm super annoyed at this company, and the bits and pieces of negative info about it doesn't help one bit.  I'm so glad that I only purchased one month.  We'll see how it goes, and hopefully the products are wonderful, but so far I am terribly unimpressed.  They appear flaky and unprofessional in my eyes now, and once a company has lost its reputation to me, it's nearly impossible to build it back up.  I'll make a post once I get my box!  Seems a little ridiculous that we're in the latter part of January and we still don't have our December boxes.. good grief!  And if these products are really only good for six months, then that means that depending on when they created and packed them, then we only get about two or three months to use them before the recommended time period runs out.  Hmm.

 

[SubJunkie]

I received my today /emoticons/[email protected] 2x" width="20" height="20" /> It's pretty great I wish they were a more trustworthy company...but  at this point I still wont be ordering from them again.

 

[sweetshellee]

I was just cleaning out some of my samples and realized most of the stuff I have gotten from NBB has hardened, seperated or gone bad. Unfortunately, some of it, like the Golden Berries cream (not stick..the stick is so greasy, I wouldn't dream of putting it on my face) I received in my previous box has gone rock hard. What concerns me is, they have been iffy about ingredients, they have been misleading about shipments, customer relations and the fact that they are supplying pretty much everything in the box, so what insurance do we have that any of these products contain what they say they do and how sanitary is the packaging? The mascara is really disturbing. Even mascara full of preservatives has a safety seal so we know we are the first ones opening it and we have about 6 months to use it before it gets risky. This mascara was supposed to be a full sized product. OK, I get that they are getting away with not listing ingredients on the sample containers as they are samples. This is a full sized product, in a cheap generic mascara tube with no more than a sticker reading Delizioso. There was no plastic seal to let us know we are the first to break it open and no ingredients listed on the packaging. Again, another product put out by their own company that like so many of the others screams cheap and is not something that could be sold in a store. There are so many good, legitimate natural brands that are properly labelled and safety sealed. When it comes to mascara, natural is nice..Unlabelled, unsealed natural mascara screams eye infection. Mine went in the garbage. Uponing reviewing the items from the last 4 boxes I've gotten I've realized almost everything contains a varying combination of 5 ingredients, shea butter, coconut oil, cocoa butter, olive oil and fragrance/essential oil. PS..the Lotion candle KILLED me..soy wax, coconut oil and soot, does not a lotion make.. /emoticons/[email protected] 2x" width="20" height="20" />