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Oh and if you want to see how badly they screwed up my makeover for my FIRST EVER professional photo shoot...check this out.  The first photo is as I showed up in my own makeup but after I had my hair done, the second photo is after they (Sephora - not Smashbox) did my makeup.  I look like an old clown with mismatched facial features!!  ICK!!!
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I love your own makeup job. You look warm and glowy in a very subdued way, your eyes are shown off wonderful, and it's a very flattering look.

The one they did on you has fdtn too pale for you, a really bad job lining and shaping the lips, and I agree that they went overboard on the dark colors. That's not flattering at all. The problem is that a lot of stores/counters do makeovers as if they were doing makeup for an advertising shoot, not for 'everyday' cosmetics. They go for immediate impact, not a simpler, 'me but better' look.

 
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@ Was this the one at Arden? I don't go there anymore because they were rude when I was a teenager a decade ago, lol. I think they just have bad staff permanently ;) /emoticons/[email protected] 2x" width="20" height="20" /> Sorry to hear you had a bad time. I would not be happy with that makeover either especially since it was done by sephora staff when Rouge can get free staff makeovers anyday :/

 
Well folks I have had it.  I have been treated like a second class citizen FOR THE LAST TIME!  I spent over $500 this weekend at Sephora and all I managed to get out of the employees was dirty looks, lies (straight up lies that I CAUGHT them in!), condescension, and the worst make-over EVER, so I haven't even looked at my Smashbox photo shoot photos (CRINGE).  I've made a decision.  It won't be popular with many, or even some, but I'm beyond angry and don't give a f#$%!!  Some of you know that at 43 I am just now learning about make up and skin care, I went from BI to VIBR through 12/31/15 in less than 30 days.  I have always always ALWAYS been pleasant to everyone I come across - not that it matters to anyone but my personality is that of a giver to a fault.  My only rants have been to the few associates at Sephora that I do like and the new location that not only takes care of me, but treats me with respect.  Well, and on here too.  I have let my frustration out by typing it out and have not said one word to those that caused me great grief but that changes tomorrow.  I have had seriously disturbing customer service since day 1, but in my elated state of all things beauty, again other than venting here, forgave it all.  I have made MANY purchases in an attempt to find the right products for me - I have more issues with my skin than Obama has with his administration and my skin shows it all.  90% of my skin issues are directly related to my anxiety and stress, and sadly, Sephora has managed to add to it rather than help me keep it under control.  You might remember that I returned some purchases recently and was made to feel like a criminal, wasteful, white trash...fill in the adjective, but one of the two associates helping me continueously harassed me during the return until I was able to leave.  By the time I left I could'nt look either of them in the eye and as soon as I was out of the store I cried, feeling horrible about myself.  NO MORE.  I have spent the last 4 hours going through EVERY PURCHASE, EVERY RECEIPT, and EVERY SAMPLE I have.  Tomorrow, I am going back to that store where they will proceed to return everything in the below pictures.  Some bought online, some in their store and some in free standing stores.  My only comment will be "since you SO enjoyed returning items for me last time, I wanted to be sure you had the opportunity to do it again!"  I had planned on donating these items along with all my other "didn't work out for me" products to a woman's shelter, and part of me feels bad that I'm not giving them these too, but my anger hit it's peak and this is going to be so much more satisfying.  I don't care if you bash me - I mean I 'd rather you didn't but I'm sharing publicly and of course, feedback goes both ways.  First pic - returns.  Second pic - return samples.  Third pic - the whole package they will get tomorrow.
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Oh and if you want to see how badly they screwed up my makeover for my FIRST EVER professional photo shoot...check this out.  The first photo is as I showed up in my own makeup but after I had my hair done, the second photo is after they (Sephora - not Smashbox) did my makeup.  I look like an old clown with mismatched facial features!!  ICK!!!
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You might have already.. but I would send a private message through Facebook about all this to Sephora, if you Facebook.  I'd say post about it on the page, but they'll ask you to private message them with the store/incident info anyways.  

Was this at a free standing Sephora or a JCP Sephora?  I've never been to a JCP Sephora, but I always see so much bad reviews for them, and I'm not a big fan of JCP anyways.  

Your picture of before the makeover is really pretty!  I think you did a very nice job with your makeup and you played up your features perfectly.  I don't like their makeup job on you either from that picture.  They did not pick the correct colors of anything, especially foundation, it is way too light.

 It reminds me of my store visit on Saturday.  I was talking to some blonde chick that goes around trying to push products on people, and after I let her enable me to some Dior products she asks if I need anything else.. I say there is a foundation I'd like a sample of, by Laura Mercier.  We head to the next row and she's trying to put a foundation in my basket to buy and then give me a sample of the same foundation..all I asked for was a sample, lol.  So she says okay and I hand her the bottle of the color I want.  She tells me it is too dark, and I told her it isn't, I've already tried it for color match.  She drags me to the makeup counter mirror in the middle of the store and puts a thick swipe on my jaw line, then gushes how it is too dark for me..seeeeee, way too dark!  Ugh.. okay first of all, nobody wears foundation that thick or unblended... it was that new sheer-ish fluid foundation by LM, and once you blend it out for a normal application, it goes very sheer.  If I went any lighter in color I might as well have put nothing on at all.  Granted, straight out of the bottle it does look very dark, but if I swipe a normal amount on my cheek, it almost disappears completely like it should, and that's without any blending at all.  Then she's trying to still prove she's right, and insults me about my choice...I must just like to be overly warm she says, then reluctantly gives me a sample of it.  

It must be Sephora's "thing" to want to put foundation on people that is too light.  I don't get it!  It took a lot of reserve to not smart off to this chick "helping" me.  Her makeup job sucked, was all cakey and dried out looking too.  I actually try my best to avoid this chick when I see her there while shopping.  She isn't like the other employees.  She always wears straight black with an apron, but no makeup brushes, lol.  She doesn't do much more than push products etc,  I don't know why she's employed to be honest.  That probably sounds really mean, but she's really that unhelpful and pushy.  

There are times when you need to vent or make your voice heard in store, and there is nothing wrong with that!  You're unhappy with your experience, and you are well within means to make that known!  Heck, even Glamour Shots does better makeup than they did for you.  You're a pretty lady, and they did you no justice.  

I've always wanted to do a makeover at my local store, since it is free for Rouge and should be fun... but after looking at the makeup job most of the cast members have, I know I'll end up looking like a clown.  I was watching some people get makeup help at the makeover mirrors, and cringing inside at how they made the poor souls look.  It looked like a 5 year old put eyeshadow on them. :-(    They really need to hire some REAL makeup artists for the makeovers.  Or at least have some qualifications for the staff before they're allowed to clown up the customers, lol.  

If I were in your shoes I'd probably return it all too.  It is nice if it really is donated, or donating it yourself...but it isn't going to send any sort of message to Sephora if you donate it.  They'll still have your money and think their behavior is okay.  

 
I like my local SinJCP the ladies there are always super sweet its the selection I hate. I went there yesterday looking for stuff and they didnt have it (tons of formula x clearance though, I snagged the foil look one for $5 down from $25) and ended up having to drive out to the real one 30 min away anyway.

 
I'm still out facing my Sephora demons still hahaha but real quick saw part of a message and yes, this was at Arden. I'll check back again when I'm home and update more.

 
I hope they didn't lie about that too!
I asked again today to a couple of people, one lady said if we tell them the item isn't used and the seals are intact - they do not destroy them - they actually resell them.  Another lady said the same and she said sometimes, depending on a few factors (condition of packaging type things) they may code the return as damaged but use the product as tester...now THAT is a much better use of the product, I think. Of course, I don't like to use the testers for exactly the reason the store would use a returned item as a tester, but that is the Sephora way. :wacko:  .  Oh and one of the ladies said they send them back as destroyed/damaged products, but yes she thought all of those are bundled and donated unless really gross.

 
WOW thank you all so much for your kind words!  You just totally made my week!  Now I guess I better get on with my confession. So for all my BIG TALK, I chickened out.  Bok bok bok hahaha.  As angry as I was (still am...but its waning), I am not a real confrontational person and I just believe too strongly that two wrongs don't make a right...and I got to thinking about something a friend had asked me.  She asked if I had checked out a Sephora in a neighboring town, she said maybe a Sephora that serviced a smaller population would have better service.  Brilliant! So I looked up Sephora's within100 miles of me and went on a road trip!   :drive:  I headed out this morning and started about 1.5 hours south of me and 'Sephora' jumped my way back home, returning products at each stop!   :laughno:  I REALLY enjoyed the adventure!  First stop was a mall that had both a stand alone and a SiJCP.  Both of these stores were great!  Sephora Stand alone:  First thing the girl said was "hey! we are birthday buddies!" Turns out we are both Leo's and share our birthdate!  She's 21 years my junior but a total sweetie.   Not one of the 4-5 employees I interacted with had ANYTHING negative to say, and none of them asked me why I was returning the items.  I didn't buy anything here.  Second stop SiJCP at the same mall: The lady who helped me was very professional, courteous and didn't ask me why I was returning any of the items. *special shout out here - I was able to pick up a .5 oz glam glow (black) and two StriVectin neck cream .25 oz minis for $5 ea in the sale bin at the register! WHOO-HOO! Third stop SiJCP in the next town:  This lady was ok, I think she was more uneasy with the online return in-store process than the fact that I was returning something, and this stop took a while.  She was nice and pleasant and she did ask about what was used and wasn't.  At one point I asked a question about points - which was if I keep spending so much would I start seeing VIBR through 2016, and so forth or does it only count if I spend the dollars needed in 2015, for 2016, at which point another lady (I'm guessing around 50 years old??) chimed in and said well you are probably going to  lose your VIBR status.  I kind of laughed it off, not laughing at her but a laugh that says, umm, no, it is a legitimate question.  She just looked at me so I said it wasn't important but then the girl helping at the register was curious so we had a good chat about that and then I was all done there.  Overall not too bad of a stop. My fourth and final stop, the last SiJCP, was the most fun.  The manager, Ashley, was a riot and for some reason from the second she started helping me return my items-she talked to me like we were old friends.  Talking skin care, reality TV (her - I don't watch) but just chatting and laughing etc.  I had a store credit from one of my earlier returns so I decided to spend it here.  I puttered around and ended up with another Algenist product - building my skin care line lineup - and even with my returns etc. she offered me the VIBPARTY cosmetic bag (complete with algenist eye balm!) - WIN WIN WIN!! And my final WIN of the day...my makeup swap trade arrived today~check out my new hat! Well thanks for listening all...I'm falling asleep - good night!

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I asked again today to a couple of people, one lady said if we tell them the item isn't used and the seals are intact - they do not destroy them - they actually resell them.  Another lady said the same and she said sometimes, depending on a few factors (condition of packaging type things) they may code the return as damaged but use the product as tester...now THAT is a much better use of the product, I think. Of course, I don't like to use the testers for exactly the reason the store would use a returned item as a tester, but that is the Sephora way. :wacko:  .  Oh and one of the ladies said they send them back as destroyed/damaged products, but yes she thought all of those are bundled and donated unless really gross.
  
Knowing they make testers from returns kind of grosses me out. This is why I pretty much only use their testers on my hand, and if I'm having them making me a to-go sample to try on my face, I will only allow it if the products comes from a pump.

WOW thank you all so much for your kind words!  You just totally made my week!  Now I guess I better get on with my confession. So for all my BIG TALK, I chickened out.  Bok bok bok hahaha.  As angry as I was (still am...but its waning), I am not a real confrontational person and I just believe too strongly that two wrongs don't make a right...and I got to thinking about something a friend had asked me.  She asked if I had checked out a Sephora in a neighboring town, she said maybe a Sephora that serviced a smaller population would have better service.  Brilliant! So I looked up Sephora's within100 miles of me and went on a road trip!   :drive:  I headed out this morning and started about 1.5 hours south of me and 'Sephora' jumped my way back home, returning products at each stop!   :laughno:  I REALLY enjoyed the adventure!  First stop was a mall that had both a stand alone and a SiJCP.  Both of these stores were great!  Sephora Stand alone:  First thing the girl said was "hey! we are birthday buddies!" Turns out we are both Leo's and share our birthdate!  She's 21 years my junior but a total sweetie.   Not one of the 4-5 employees I interacted with had ANYTHING negative to say, and none of them asked me why I was returning the items.  I didn't buy anything here.  Second stop SiJCP at the same mall: The lady who helped me was very professional, courteous and didn't ask me why I was returning any of the items. *special shout out here - I was able to pick up a .5 oz glam glow (black) and two StriVectin neck cream .25 oz minis for $5 ea in the sale bin at the register! WHOO-HOO! Third stop SiJCP in the next town:  This lady was ok, I think she was more uneasy with the online return in-store process than the fact that I was returning something, and this stop took a while.  She was nice and pleasant and she did ask about what was used and wasn't.  At one point I asked a question about points - which was if I keep spending so much would I start seeing VIBR through 2016, and so forth or does it only count if I spend the dollars needed in 2015, for 2016, at which point another lady (I'm guessing around 50 years old??) chimed in and said well you are probably going to  lose your VIBR status.  I kind of laughed it off, not laughing at her but a laugh that says, umm, no, it is a legitimate question.  She just looked at me so I said it wasn't important but then the girl helping at the register was curious so we had a good chat about that and then I was all done there.  Overall not too bad of a stop. My fourth and final stop, the last SiJCP, was the most fun.  The manager, Ashley, was a riot and for some reason from the second she started helping me return my items-she talked to me like we were old friends.  Talking skin care, reality TV (her - I don't watch) but just chatting and laughing etc.  I had a store credit from one of my earlier returns so I decided to spend it here.  I puttered around and ended up with another Algenist product - building my skin care line lineup - and even with my returns etc. she offered me the VIBPARTY cosmetic bag (complete with algenist eye balm!) - WIN WIN WIN!! And my final WIN of the day...my makeup swap trade arrived today~check out my new hat! Well thanks for listening all...I'm falling asleep - good night!

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First off, that hat looks awesome on you! I'm so glad it worked out!! I wish I could have pulled it off so well, but glad it went to a good pretty home. :)

Secondly, so glad Sephora redeemed themselves for you. I do think it's ridiculous that Sephoras in the larger cities can be so spotty though, so you should definitely still email them through Facebook about the event and your experience (especially since, I think I read it costs like $100, right?)

I once had a REALLY bad experience getting my hair done at a VERY expensive salon in Vegas (I wasn't paying). My hair seriously couldn't have looked worse. I was 27 at the time and looked 73 from that hairdo. I don't know what the girl was thinking. Even worse, I was going to a red carpet event and I wasn't about to look 73 on TV. It took a lot of courage, but I went and asked another one of the girls if there was someone who could help fix it. I felt so awful asking and expressed that, but at the end of the day, someone had spent a lot of money on that hairdo and I should feel beautiful leaving the salon. The girls there agreed. They took me in the back to fix my hair since I was so nervous about upsetting the original lady who did my hair. I learned from that day to always speak up with beauty appointments. Youre a paying customer, everything is changeable/fixable, and those days were meant for you to leave feeling beautiful and special. So if this ever happens again (I hope it doesn't), I hope you will think of me and my 73-year-old hairstyle. I have learned there is a nice way to say something just isn't your style, and that's what you must do. Power to the customer! :)

 
Yeah it was a paid event but the money you spent to reserve your spot went towards product, and could only be Smashbox products, which was fine.  I was waiting for the event to get some things though so that was fine.  Well we'll have to wait and see what adventure Sephora will throw my way next!  Thank you again for all of your comments and support.  I'll post if I send a letter or message Sephora through FB about my experiences. ~B~

 
Update on the micro beauty blenders:

They are too small overall and are very difficult to hold if you want to use a side instead of the point or the rounded edge. I personally like using the point for under eye concealer on the original beauty blender and tried to use the rounded edge which was alright but not fantastic. If you have a tiny under eye area these might be great for you but my dark circles are pretty far under my eyes so I like to attack the whole area at once even going onto my cheekbones a bit. If you like precise blending you will love these or if you have a small eye area. These would probably be great for shadows if the wetness of the beauty blender doesn't affect creasing for you!

 
I like my local SinJCP the ladies there are always super sweet its the selection I hate. I went there yesterday looking for stuff and they didnt have it (tons of formula x clearance though, I snagged the foil look one for $5 down from $25) and ended up having to drive out to the real one 30 min away anyway.
which SiJCP do you go to?  The one on Sunrise? Or are you further south?  I stopped in to ones in Modesto, and LOVED the one in Stockton. :) /emoticons/[email protected] 2x" width="20" height="20" />

 
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I'm supposed to be finishing shampooing my carpet, but has anyone tried Ole Henriksen's sheer transformation face creme?  Is it me or does it make your lines just poof! Vanish!??  I'm sure only temp but WHOA talk about an INSTANT result!!  Is it just me??

 
Sunrise, it's so close I could walk if I wasn't lazy ;) /emoticons/[email protected] 2x" width="20" height="20" />
That is where I was going, until one of the girls there was so rude during a return she made me cry. :( /emoticons/[email protected] 2x" width="20" height="20" />  It was Tatum...Used to go see Kimberly and LOVED her...but she didn't help me when Tatum was going off...just stood there and went about her business but it is too bad because Kimberly is very knowledgeable too.  Now I go to the SiJCP at Arden.  BEST. STAFF. EVER!! They have Anastasia too and other brands that Sunrise doesn't have. I was impressed with the better selection in skin care too.  Let me know if you ever want to meet up for a shopping spree or set appointments for makeovers! And at Arden they always give me stuff without me asking, unlike Sunrise.

 
Sunrise, it's so close I could walk if I wasn't lazy ;) /emoticons/[email protected] 2x" width="20" height="20" />
Did you go to the Rouge event?  I went to the one at the Roseville Galleria - they are decent.  Mel is awesome and can usually be found in skincare.  I'm going to make an appt to have her help me with my make up bag...you know how to use what brushes with what products kind of thing...she's funny but SO willing to help!  

 
I go to the Galleria if I have to go to a full Sephora, although on Sun. they gave me a mini heart attack. They forgot to take the alarm stuff off the cologne/perfume sample sets and it went off so the lady took my whole bag (including receipt) over to the counter to deactivate it and my stupid brain is going "If she doesn't come back you have no proof you bought anything,"  because it loves to torture me.

I don't find my self going out towards the Arden area much anymore. I didn't go to the Rouge event.

Sucks that Sunrise was the one with rude people, I've never had an issue there but I've also never returned anything there. I think sometimes true CS is shown when it's tested. I'm usually the one going "No, I don't need help stop hovering. I'm not stealing crap," in my brain. It comes out as a polite " No thank you," though so I don't learn many names.

When I have asked for help I find Sephora associates giving me what seems like the least informed answers. I have the same issue with Best Buy they'll literally just pick up the same box I was looking at and read me the info. I now research things online or with my MUT gals or just take the chance it's not what I need it for .

 
Yeah I don't like asking associates about anything whatsoever. Even my ex boyfriend would go in there to buy me a birthday present when we were dating and knew more about a product than the associates. Sometimes they would even tell him they didn't have the product and then he would look in the store himself and find it. I applied for a position at Sephora this summer and never received a call back. I guess they don't want people who know anything about beauty products. 

 
I hate the hovering and it feels exactly like they're worried I'm stealing. Not a great feeling...

 
I hate the hovering and it feels exactly like they're worried I'm stealing. Not a great feeling...
Every once in a while I get hovered over at the Glendale/Americana location.  Usually have the opposite problem though, and can't find anybody when I need them/they're all busy.  But the rare hover incidents make me irritated.  I've turned around and snapped at one guy before.  I can't stand when they do that crap.  I'm also claustrophobic and can't function well with people right up near me like that.  

 
This is why I only shop online... no witchy sales people and more/better promo codes... it's sad though that even as top-tier clients we're made to feel this way when we go to the brick-and-mortars.

 

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