SEPHORA: VIB Rouge

[jesemiaud]

Originally Posted by Heather Hicks /img/forum/go_quote.gif

I was VIB rouge from day 1 as well. Kind of a wake up call, actually. I bought a few big ticket items like the Mia and a bunch of replacement brush heads, so I'm sure that had lots to do with it. Still, I had NO IDEA I'd spent that much this year. I still like the free shipping. With their sale on, I picked up 2 lipsurgence colors I'd wanted for a long time. Appears now is my last chance as they are probably discontinued colors. I tossed in a $5 brush to get over the $25 hump to use a promo code and picked up a nice sample set of Smashbox primers as well. Not a bad deal without the shipping! But yeah, I'd like some freebie love too. 

Oh, and about the Tarte lipsurgence, I've never had a problem with it making my lips dry. I can put it on at night, wake up, and my lips feel pretty moisturized, plus they still have color on them. Is peppermint oil the type of thing that only irritates some people to the point of drying the lips out?

I wonder the same thing...I use products with peppermint oil almost daily and I've never had a problem with dry, chapped lips. 

 

[SnowLeopard]

I'm sure there are plenty of people who spend a lot at sephora. It's a luxury store and people get really into beauty. What's considered "a lot of money" is relative because everyone has different incomes/expenses/spending habits/lifestyles and varying levels of interest in beauty products. As someone else suggested, a lot of people buy for others as well. You can't really compare what you spend to what someone else spends. On a related note, I hate when people subtract stars from product reviews based on price. I mark those reviews as "not helpful" because they dont really speak to the product. I am only concerned with the results, I already see the price and it's my money and my decision.

 

[Charity1217]

Originally Posted by jesemiaud /img/forum/go_quote.gif

I wonder the same thing...I use products with peppermint oil almost daily and I've never had a problem with dry, chapped lips. 

Originally Posted by invisiblebike /img/forum/go_quote.gif


Some might be more sensitive to it than others, but it is a known irritant. It's particularly bad when A LOT of it is in "plumping" lipsticks. That tingling sensation you get when you apply lip venom or something like that? It's damage, and using it every day can break down the collagen in your lips.

OCC lip tars have some peppermint oil in them too, but I don't think it's much because I never feel any tingling. Still, it's not something every day.

I think some people are more sensitive than others to it.  I know many ingredients in skin can be irritating to the skin, like fragrance, but some people don't notice while others have reactions.  I've read that even when you don't notice a problem you can still have damage under the surface that you don't see immediately.  I know when I switched to a fragrance free skin care line my skin improved.  I never had redness or burning but it never looked very good.  Now, it's getting to where I feel comfortable wearing less foundation.  So while I would have never said I had sensitive skin, I believe the fragrance was bothering my skin and keeping it from healing.

That said I still use lip plumpers, just not very often because my lips are normally very dry and I try not to make them worse. But I'm not ready to throw away most of my extensive lip collection because of irritants.  I just use them less often.

 

[FormosaHoney]

Originally Posted by SnowLeopard /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I'm sure there are plenty of people who spend a lot at sephora. It's a luxury store and people get really into beauty. What's considered "a lot of money" is relative because everyone has different incomes/expenses/spending habits/lifestyles and varying levels of interest in beauty products. As someone else suggested, a lot of people buy for others as well. You can't really compare what you spend to what someone else spends. On a related note, I hate when people subtract stars from product reviews based on price. I mark those reviews as "not helpful" because they dont really speak to the product. I am only concerned with the results, I already see the price and it's my money and my decision.

I reached VIB-R because I was buying for others.  I started to channel my presents towards skin-care, fragrance, fragrances etc...   Which works great!  They love the premium little luxuries and feel pampered (even though you've spent no more money then budgeted) and are able to easily exchange what doesn't work out.  

Issues with unappealing branding or other product preferences seem less then issues with size or style with just about anything else, i.e. shirt, shoes, sweaters, bag, scarf...  The items aren't bulky or awkward to wrap (I usually use a Glossy Box, gift bag and tissues on top) and I get to add on some little 'code' cutie for self at check-out.

You bet come Christmas time, I will be buying all my female presents at Sephora and maybe a few for men too.  I mean just imagine, you are at home with cup of coffee, you click buy and it's there 3 days alter!  No running about town, standing online, lugging all your purchases back home.  

 

 

 

 

[FormosaHoney]

 


Holy draconian Sephorian sample strategy, but something like this was bound to happen sooner then later when they offered free shipping...

 

[ohsailor]

Originally Posted by SnowLeopard /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I'm sure there are plenty of people who spend a lot at sephora. It's a luxury store and people get really into beauty. What's considered "a lot of money" is relative because everyone has different incomes/expenses/spending habits/lifestyles and varying levels of interest in beauty products. As someone else suggested, a lot of people buy for others as well. You can't really compare what you spend to what someone else spends. On a related note, I hate when people subtract stars from product reviews based on price. I mark those reviews as "not helpful" because they dont really speak to the product. I am only concerned with the results, I already see the price and it's my money and my decision.

This is why I don't trust Makeupalley's reviews much. They'll give a more expensive product 1 or 2 stars because they have unrealistic expectations (they expect it to move mountains, aka make their skin perfect in 3 days) while a super cheap product will get 4 or 5 stars, even though in their review, they sit there and list all the problems with it ("it's very orange," "broke me out a little," and "feels very thick and heavy" BUT "at $2, I can't complain!") IMO, yes you can, and should. It drives me crazy every time! /end rant.

 

[Heather Hicks]

Originally Posted by invisiblebike /img/forum/go_quote.gif


Some might be more sensitive to it than others, but it is a known irritant. It's particularly bad when A LOT of it is in "plumping" lipsticks. That tingling sensation you get when you apply lip venom or something like that? It's damage, and using it every day can break down the collagen in your lips.

OCC lip tars have some peppermint oil in them too, but I don't think it's much because I never feel any tingling. Still, it's not something every day.

Yikes! I have a HUGE collection of Tarte lipsurgence and two more on the way thanks to Sephora putting them on sale for half price. I guess I'm a bit concerned about that. As for plumpers, I don't care for them and don't use them often, thank goodness. I'll have to keep in mind that they are bad for you and continue to only break them out very, very rarely (not that I have many of them anyway). The peppermint doesn't actually break down collagen, does it? Being a natural ingredient, that would surprise me.

 

[invisiblebike]

Originally Posted by Heather Hicks /img/forum/go_quote.gif

Yikes! I have a HUGE collection of Tarte lipsurgence and two more on the way thanks to Sephora putting them on sale for half price. I guess I'm a bit concerned about that. As for plumpers, I don't care for them and don't use them often, thank goodness. I'll have to keep in mind that they are bad for you and continue to only break them out very, very rarely (not that I have many of them anyway). The peppermint doesn't actually break down collagen, does it? Being a natural ingredient, that would surprise me.

I'm not sure. I know plumpers that contain menthone glycerin acetyl DO break down collagen. (Buxom is an example of one that you definitely want to avoid.)

I think you'll probably be okay if you use something containing peppermint oil occasionally (maybe once a week?), but daily use could lead to dry, chapped lips.

If you use Tarte lipsurgence daily and don't have a reaction, you're probably fine to continue using it. I just know that quite a few people have had bad reactions to it, even after just a couple of initial uses.

But remember, just because an ingredient is natural or organic doesn't mean it's good for your skin!

 

[Heather Hicks]

Originally Posted by SnowLeopard /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I'm sure there are plenty of people who spend a lot at sephora. It's a luxury store and people get really into beauty. What's considered "a lot of money" is relative because everyone has different incomes/expenses/spending habits/lifestyles and varying levels of interest in beauty products. As someone else suggested, a lot of people buy for others as well. You can't really compare what you spend to what someone else spends. On a related note, I hate when people subtract stars from product reviews based on price. I mark those reviews as "not helpful" because they dont really speak to the product. I am only concerned with the results, I already see the price and it's my money and my decision.

Originally Posted by ohsailor /img/forum/go_quote.gif

This is why I don't trust Makeupalley's reviews much. They'll give a more expensive product 1 or 2 stars because they have unrealistic expectations (they expect it to move mountains, aka make their skin perfect in 3 days) while a super cheap product will get 4 or 5 stars, even though in their review, they sit there and list all the problems with it ("it's very orange," "broke me out a little," and "feels very thick and heavy" BUT "at $2, I can't complain!") IMO, yes you can, and should. It drives me crazy every time! /end rant.

I understand that you can see the price for yourself, but I couldn't disagree more when you say it is not a valid consideration when doing a review. True, it is only one consideration among others. Let's say I know of a product at Sephora that sells for $25 and one that sells for $50--both the same size and both perform the same way, equally well. I think it is very valid to take off one star from the $50 one because you know you can buy something else cheaper to get the same results. Though I also agree I would not give a product a good or bad rating based solely on the price. Take ELF, for example. Lots of people love them. I do not. I have a few of their products (because, let's face it, they are cheap enough to take a chance on now and then) but overall I feel like even a dollar or two is a waste of money on ELF most of the time. Meanwhile, I have a couple of eye creams that cost a pretty penny but they are worth it because they seem to work. Nonetheless, if I did a review, I might mention the price as a negative. Not sure I would deduct a star since I love them so much. Still, we all know there are certain brands that charge more than they should just because of their name. The markup on beauty products like makeup and skincare can be horrible.

 

[SnowLeopard]

I understand that you can see the price for yourself, but I couldn't disagree more when you say it is not a valid consideration when doing a review. True, it is only one consideration among others. Let's say I know of a product at Sephora that sells for $25 and one that sells for $50--both the same size and both perform the same way, equally well. I think it is very valid to take off one star from the $50 one because you know you can buy something else cheaper to get the same results. Though I also agree I would not give a product a good or bad rating based solely on the price. Take ELF, for example. Lots of people love them. I do not. I have a few of their products (because, let's face it, they are cheap enough to take a chance on now and then) but overall I feel like even a dollar or two is a waste of money on ELF most of the time. Meanwhile, I have a couple of eye creams that cost a pretty penny but they are worth it because they seem to work. Nonetheless, if I did a review, I might mention the price as a negative. Not sure I would deduct a star since I love them so much. Still, we all know there are certain brands that charge more than they should just because of their name. The markup on beauty products like makeup and skincare can be horrible.

I feel like someone can mention in their review whether they thought the product was a "good value" or "not worth the price", but it bothers me when they rate it based on price. People should be rating the product, not the price. Value is really relative to the person and what they would pay for something. I might think something is too expensive, while you might perceive it as a good value. I'm really only concerned with did the product deliver on its promises.

 

[Charity1217]

I feel like someone can mention in their review whether they thought the product was a "good value" or "not worth the price", but it bothers me when they rate it based on price. People should be rating the product, not the price. Value is really relative to the person and what they would pay for something. I might think something is too expensive, while you might perceive it as a good value. I'm really only concerned with did the product deliver on its promises.

I hate when people give it one star then start their review by saying "I haven't tried it yet, but......" something like looks pretty in the package. What's the point of reviewing if you haven't tried it.

 

[invisiblebike]

Originally Posted by Charity1217 /img/forum/go_quote.gif

I hate when people give it one star then start their review by saying "I haven't tried it yet, but......" something like looks pretty in the package. What's the point of reviewing if you haven't tried it.

glossybox or birchbox points? lol

 

[r4chel77]

i don't mind reviews that mention the price as long as the rating isn't based on it.

it's actually really important to stress the amount that you get and how long it goes, which has a direct relation to price. i wear liquid liner nearly every day and 10000000 times more often than pencil liner on the upper lid, so i calculated urban decay vs maybelline stilletto liner costs. i remember UD was about $75 an ounce and maybelline was about $175/fl oz. these prices are probably a bit off but the ratio is not; because of amounts, even though the maybelline costs $5-8 absolutely anywhere and ud's costs $20, i totally like it when someone does the work for me in their review. 

just fyi, UD has nearly ten times as much as any other liquid liner. kat von d's little potted one only comes in black but is several times more than other brands' sizes... sephora's is the best deal beyond that, then MUFE. completely avoid purchasing it from any other brand ever: UD is 0.25oz and stila's is 0.016oz, so it's FIIIIIIIFTEEEEEEEEEN TIMES MORE. i.e. a couple months of daily use vs a week and a half for the same price (actually stila is $20 and ud is $19). anyways, hope i drove my point home that price does matter sometimes when you're being ripped off without knowledge from investigating.

 

[gemstone]

i don't mind reviews that mention the price as long as the rating isn't based on it. it's actually really important to stress the amount that you get and how long it goes, which has a direct relation to price. i wear liquid liner nearly every day and 10000000 times more often than pencil liner on the upper lid, so i calculated urban decay vs maybelline stilletto liner costs. i remember UD was about $75 an ounce and maybelline was about $175/fl oz. these prices are probably a bit off but the ratio is not; because of amounts, even though the maybelline costs $5-8 absolutely anywhere and ud's costs $20, i totally like it when someone does the work for me in their review.  just fyi, UD has nearly ten times as much as any other liquid liner. kat von d's little potted one only comes in black but is several times more than other brands' sizes... sephora's is the best deal beyond that, then MUFE. completely avoid purchasing it from any other brand ever: UD is 0.25oz and stila's is 0.016oz, so it's FIIIIIIIFTEEEEEEEEEN TIMES MORE. i.e. a couple months of daily use vs a week and a half for the same price (actually stila is $20 and ud is $19). anyways, hope i drove my point home that price does matter sometimes when you're being ripped off without knowledge from investigating.

That's good to know, especially since I haven't figured out how to keep the stila from drying out immediately.

 

[Heather Hicks]

Originally Posted by SnowLeopard /img/forum/go_quote.gif

I feel like someone can mention in their review whether they thought the product was a "good value" or "not worth the price", but it bothers me when they rate it based on price. People should be rating the product, not the price. Value is really relative to the person and what they would pay for something. I might think something is too expensive, while you might perceive it as a good value. I'm really only concerned with did the product deliver on its promises.

I see what you're saying, but I guess what I'm saying is, if they specifically mention price and say they took off one star for that alone and then they also go on to do a rave review, then you know they really think the product is 5 out of 5 stars minus the 1 star for price. If they spell it out clearly, the review is still useful, you know? What bothers me is when someone gives a glowing review but then gives only 3 out of 5 stars. Or maybe they only mention how they didn't like the product but then give it a 4 or a 5. Those are the reviews which leave me scratching my head, lol!

 

[Heather Hicks]

Originally Posted by r4chel77 /img/forum/go_quote.gif

i don't mind reviews that mention the price as long as the rating isn't based on it.

it's actually really important to stress the amount that you get and how long it goes, which has a direct relation to price. i wear liquid liner nearly every day and 10000000 times more often than pencil liner on the upper lid, so i calculated urban decay vs maybelline stilletto liner costs. i remember UD was about $75 an ounce and maybelline was about $175/fl oz. these prices are probably a bit off but the ratio is not; because of amounts, even though the maybelline costs $5-8 absolutely anywhere and ud's costs $20, i totally like it when someone does the work for me in their review. 

just fyi, UD has nearly ten times as much as any other liquid liner. kat von d's little potted one only comes in black but is several times more than other brands' sizes... sephora's is the best deal beyond that, then MUFE. completely avoid purchasing it from any other brand ever: UD is 0.25oz and stila's is 0.016oz, so it's FIIIIIIIFTEEEEEEEEEN TIMES MORE. i.e. a couple months of daily use vs a week and a half for the same price (actually stila is $20 and ud is $19). anyways, hope i drove my point home that price does matter sometimes when you're being ripped off without knowledge from investigating.

Good point. Clear communication beats all for me. But then, I love to write, so I appreciate it when others put thought and effort into their reviews. That matters more to me than the rating in and of itself. I think ratings seem to come out of the air many times. But if someone writes a decent review, you can judge a lot about them as a reviewer based solely on how well written the review happens to be. "Good eye cream. I like the ingredients. Seemed to work well. Would purchase again." is a far cry from "I've been using this eye cream for 2 months now. From day one, I saw a visible improvement in my fine lines and puffiness. When I put it on at night, I wake up the next morning and it still seems to have an effect on my fine lines, puffiness, and moisture levels." Both could give the product 5 stars, but clearly the second one is a more useful review.

 

[SnowLeopard]

I see what you're saying, but I guess what I'm saying is, if they specifically mention price and say they took off one star for that alone and then they also go on to do a rave review, then you know they really think the product is 5 out of 5 stars minus the 1 star for price. If they spell it out clearly, the review is still useful, you know? What bothers me is when someone gives a glowing review but then gives only 3 out of 5 stars. Or maybe they only mention how they didn't like the product but then give it a 4 or a 5. Those are the reviews which leave me scratching my head, lol!

Here's the thing, I generally don't have time to read a lot of reviews. If its something more expensive I'll spend more time researching. Say I'm just browsing for an eye cream and my search brings up 4 pages of results. I'm not going to look at every single product page, I scroll and look at the price and ratings. If I decide to click on one, I already know the price and was still considering purchasing it. I may pass over a great product because it had a 3 star rating because some people thought it was too expensive. In the search results, the only information you have is price, rating, and a picture of the product. If the ratings are based on price then all I really have is the picture and price.

 

[r4chel77]

Originally Posted by SnowLeopard /img/forum/go_quote.gif

Here's the thing, I generally don't have time to read a lot of reviews. If its something more expensive I'll spend more time researching. Say I'm just browsing for an eye cream and my search brings up 4 pages of results. I'm not going to look at every single product page, I scroll and look at the price and ratings. If I decide to click on one, I already know the price and was still considering purchasing it. I may pass over a great product because it had a 3 star rating because some people thought it was too expensive. In the search results, the only information you have is price, rating, and a picture of the product. If the ratings are based on price then all I really have is the picture and price.

i agree with this. i like detailed reviews, and you can find the ones marked most helpful. i care about overall ratings since when i'm in the market for a product i haven't tried that much or i'm looking for something different than i own, i sort by rating. stupid deductions due to price are frustrating.

also, it's befuddling that sephora has yet to reward review-giving. i hardly review anything anymore because i like to give detailed ones (i.e. like the comment about the liquid liner portions above). i understand it's problematic because then people give super short reviews and to products they don't even own (even i'm guilty of this on influenster, but i doubt anyone really uses it for reviews... hopefully) but they could set 100 word and ten tag limits and just make the reward the ability to add one extra sample packet on your next order for something like five reviews.. it would practically be nothing but would at least make customers feel their time was worth it, especially if vibrs could get more access to rewards for it.

 

[Heather Hicks]

Originally Posted by SnowLeopard /img/forum/go_quote.gif

Here's the thing, I generally don't have time to read a lot of reviews. If its something more expensive I'll spend more time researching. Say I'm just browsing for an eye cream and my search brings up 4 pages of results. I'm not going to look at every single product page, I scroll and look at the price and ratings. If I decide to click on one, I already know the price and was still considering purchasing it. I may pass over a great product because it had a 3 star rating because some people thought it was too expensive. In the search results, the only information you have is price, rating, and a picture of the product. If the ratings are based on price then all I really have is the picture and price.

OH, OK, I get what you're saying now. If you don't have time, you simply don't have time, so you are forced to rely on stars/numerical ratings. I am the opposite. I obsess and research everything to death before deciding what to buy, lol. But then, I have lots of time on my hands these days and that makes a big difference. I still don't trust stars/numerical ratings alone for the reasons I've said earlier. But when that's what you need to use as a quick snapshot to judge a product, I understand what you're saying about being able to judge the price for yourself.

 

[SnowLeopard]

@Heather Hicks I'm pretty busy and consider my time more valuable than my money. If I'm looking at eye creams, (assuming I'm not familiar with eye creams or sephora and am viewing all the eye creams they carry), I'll probably eliminate any that were ranked less than 4 stars without even viewing the product page. If there was an amazing eye cream that only got around a 3.5 due to its price, I would probably miss it. When I do narrow it down to the top 2 or 3 products and actually view the page I like to sort by negative reviews. I think it's more useful to see what people don't like about the product, that way I can see if there is a problem multiple reviewers are noticing or if a reviewer is just using it incorrectly. I disregard reviews based on price. I also consider how many reviews the rating is based on, if a new product launches and gets a few negative reviews based on price it could end up discontinued.