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Quote: Originally Posted by tweakabell /img/forum/go_quote.gif
  Yup, it's been coming up more and more for me and It's definitely pushing me more towards places like Ulta where there is almost always a GWP above a certain price and brand GWPs. Sephora wants to limit using a deluxe sample bag to once where as Ulta will give me multiple full size Ulta products for free with no limit as long as my order is over. On cyber monday I placed two orders both getting one of the sample bags. I also got a robe with one order and a free LG eyeshadow in the other. Sephora is quickly going down in my list for beauty products.
Thanks for sharing. I love shopping in Ulta but I had a hard time accumulating points before that was why I opted Sephora more. But I heard their reward system already was updated. I am thinking of shopping there often then and the fact that they also do frequent sales on drugstore products makes it better.

 
@ohsailor Thank you for stepping in to defend us banned people. It is greatly appreciated. There are a few skeptics out there who think we are just making this up, but really??? I can see if it's happening to one or two people, but it has happened to numerous people. We share our stories in hopes that our fellow sisters can save themselves. What do we have to gain from lying on these boards? I've gotten to a point where I'm not even posting anymore because it's bad enough that Sephora has banned me, and when I share my story, I have to read comments that say those who are banned "deserve to be banned", we have "no proof" or "where's the evidence", we're "exaggerating", ect. Anyhow, I have stopped posting, but thought I'd write this one post to let you know your support is greatly appreciated! *HUGS* :) /emoticons/[email protected] 2x" width="20" height="20" />
I second that.
 
Sphora is robust and healthy and they are 'winning' in the game of capitalism.  Any 'greedy' motive that is on this board is entirely pedestrian in comparison to Sephora ability to seperate you from your dollars.  They craft and market an image so successfully that products with mark-up of 600% to 800% are eagerly sought out by you and I.  We happily hand over $25 for some oils and wax mixed with color pigments that other comapanys charge $2 to $10 in the drug store.  Yes it's better but $20 better?  Sure, I'm convinced by the pretty packaging and the luxury image that it conveyed.  

Why don't they care?  We don't know the details, but we can safely assume that the cost of correcting this mistake at this point is greater then the cost of the damages incurred by this mistake.  

Sephora owned by LVMH, just opened a Brooklyn store, a Long Island store and yet another one will be opening in Manhattan, I think 59th and 5th or 6th?  Sephora is the 'greedy' little store, or... the 'capitalist winner' here!  And now some algorithem that they put in place to make sure no one makes more money on the products that they already made an unholy % profit from starts to pick out some of it's top tier spenders.  I think they are the 'greedy' people here.  

This is the latest report that I could find on them, this year's is probably under lock-and-key.  The numbers are in Euro Millions.



                 

              

 
Quote: Originally Posted by usofjessamerica /img/forum/go_quote.gif

I think the whole "think of it in a business sense" is the dumbest crap ever. Who is in charge there, like for real, and did they never take an Econ class where they had to read Coase's Theory of a Firm? Because seriously, what large company with a large ecommerce segment that REQUIRES many shipments to be made in order to fulfill orders HAS NOT entered into a long term, nearly unconditional contract with a shipping company? A firm is created in which these many small contracts (here the "we [sephora] pay out of pocket" re: shipping orders) may be substituted for one contract. Of course, Sephora, you pay out of pocket in the nature of initially making a long term agreement with the shipping company, UPS. The benefit of a long term contract is that the firm, Sephora, will save them money. That's seriously the dumbest reason ever. If your contract was not ready for the ZOMG MILLLLIONS of orders that would happen when all those ~*totally greedy*~ VIBRs began to ~*abuse*~ the system with their millions of tiny orders that are still making you money (because mark up on cosmetics is like, what, 600%), well, maybe you shouldn't have launched the program before you had a chance to negotiate the contract with your shipping provider to account for this runoff of VIBR orders.

Dumbest. Excuse. Ever.
THIS!!!!! That's exactly how I felt when I read about that BS

 
Quote: Originally Posted by ohsailor /img/forum/go_quote.gif
  Supportive, thankful and outraged at Sephora, mostly. Some saying that people making orders under $25 deserve what they get (essentially) because it's greedy, etc

Also, I'm pretty sure why no one has anything in writing- those are CS reps, As has been said over and over, CS Reps can't really give a response one way or the other other than "read the TOS." If you push for a better answer, you might get a guess on their part, like "too many promos." What, exactly, would the girls get in writing? They have screen capped the error they get when they try to place an order in some cases, but in others the order goes through fine without any problem, then the order is cancelled. Exactly what do you want these girls to show you to prove this is happening and pretty widespread? 

I was more cynical than anyone else when this first started, but to think all these girls, many of whom have hundreds if not thousands of posts on the Sephora boards, are either making this up or exaggerating is ridiculous. 

And the idea here isn't to exaggerate what's going on, but it's undeniable now that it's happening to a lot of girls and I think the fact that it hasn't happened to some of us who are guilty of the same things isn't a reason to say "this is all getting exaggerated" but is just further proof of how unfair and glitchy the algorithm is. The girl whose post I linked has been sharing her story for weeks and has been updating regularly and finally got a call back from someone higher up (and by "higher-up" I mean supervisor, who probably doesn't know much either, to be honest).  To essentially say it's all hyperbole or exaggeration is unfair- this girl has been pretty honest from the start. If anything, we should take what HE had to say with a grain of salt since the real powers that be have been pretty mum on everything and who knows how much of what he's saying is the truth- anyone who has dealt with CS reps can tell you 3 different reps will tell you three different answers. Heck, it got to the point that, when I got an answer I didn't like regarding something (a point perk was leaking, for example, and one said they were sorry but there was nothing they could do) I would just write back until I got an answer I did like (take it into the store to get points back/a replacement or sometimes just get my points back, no return necessary).

Part of the reason there is so much confusion is BECAUSE these girls aren't getting emails telling them exactly what's going on and why, and it's probably because an algorithm flagged them and there is no real training in how to deal with this as a CS rep than to say "read the TOS."

I'm someone who hasn't gotten banned and I have no reason to *want* this stuff to be true- but as more stories popped up, the more difficult I find it to dismiss.

@coffeecardigan I think you can tell that the rest of my response wasn't aimed at you at all, lol. But just in case, yeah- the rest of my post has nothing to do with you :) /emoticons/[email protected] 2x" width="20" height="20" />
Since I am the person who used the expression "Hyperbole" both here and in my response to the nonsensical screed you sent me on Sephora allow me to illustrate how to engage in behavior that is not passive-aggressive but is still filled with the hyperbolic nonsense you love to include in your posts:   

@froskitty says that this is hyperbole and my prattle about how it couldn't possibly be true, along with my unsubstantiated sock puppet claims of a PURGE that is almost on par with the Pharaoh ordering the murder of children is what I was actually writing about but I wanted to ignore the first part of your question and focus on the ONLY SUBJECT I write about on a thread about shopping where people are actually looking to find promo codes, makeup tips and experiences.  

This thread is about Sephora Gift Codes and Promos and has also morphed to include new product information   If you are banned from shopping at Sephora - then you really have nothing to contribute to the conversation and would be well served to start a new thread where you and the mysterious chorus of new posters with low post counts about anything else but how right you are and who all write with your particularly charming blend of hyperbole, histrionics and a really fetching inability to use a paragraph break can post away all day about how you are fighting the good fight - I'm sure that all three of you and your sock puppets will manage to draw in unsuspecting MUT people to spice things up and you'll much happier writing things like: 

"Yes, Sephora actually thinks though we can't get it in writing that we are scam artists who once we'd managed to scrape up enough to become rouge set ourselves up as Smart Women of the Business who sell baggies of samples on Ebay." 

Then you can stand up for yourself, the poor victim of the posted terms of use by saying: 

"Sephora better be listening to this, look at all the pissed off Rouges" 

This is a dead horse, let it go.   If you spend the money you infer that you do - take your business elsewhere.   I am certain that if there is a mass burning of VIB Rouge cards in the market square or a huge Rouge colored stampede to Nordstrom  that Sephora will change their terms.   It is a business and all that businesses respond to is the bottom line.   Sephora Sucks you say - and there are hordes of people being banned - prove it.  

Bored now.  

 
Yes, the one thing I'm skeptical of is that this is super "widespread." We have only had maybe two people be banned posting on MuT? And at least one made her account to specifically talk about the banning. I'm going to trust what she says about her situation, but I still don't believe that this is an epidemic. There are a ton of rouge/flash members here, and you would think way more MuT people would be getting the ban.

 
Quote: Originally Posted by gemstone /img/forum/go_quote.gif

Yes, the one thing I'm skeptical of is that this is super "widespread." We have only had maybe two people be banned posting on MuT? And at least one made her account to specifically talk about the banning. I'm going to trust what she says about her situation, but I still don't believe that this is an epidemic. There are a ton of rouge/flash members here, and you would think way more MuT people would be getting the ban.

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And I think it's probably past time to set up a separate thread on the banning issue.

 
I think a separate thread might be a good idea. I see both sides of the story -- yes it seems like an issue but not sure how "widespread" it is.  This could definitely be a few angry people making multiple accounts trying to make it look worse than it is. I make quite a few $1 purchases and the worst "abuse" of a promo code was getting 3 blitz bags.  I personally am not afraid of banning, if they cut off my online orders I would demand a refund of the $25 I paid for flash. If I was rouge then all of these stories would freak me out.  

I'm glad we have multiple points of view!  Go @FrostKittygo! 

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I should mention- I found a Nordstrom in Salt lake city- what fun! Thanks to this thread I knew to check them out and apparently they have free shipping all the time? That'll win me over any day, lol.
They have free shipping and SHOES!! And a huge lineup of nail polish AND they have amazing events in store. Oh and my favorite you call your local store looking for something and they check all their stores then ship it to you if they find it!! Love them and would marry them if woman on Department Store marriage was legal.
 
They have free shipping and SHOES!! And a huge lineup of nail polish AND they have amazing events in store. Oh and my favorite you call your local store looking for something and they check all their stores then ship it to you if they find it!! Love them and would marry them if woman on Department Store marriage was legal.
Daaaang. ^_^ /emoticons/[email protected] 2x" width="20" height="20" /> I didn't even get past the makeup to look at the other parts of the store! Lol
 
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  Quote: Originally Posted by FrostKitty /img/forum/go_quote.gif

They have free shipping and SHOES!! And a huge lineup of nail polish AND they have amazing events in store. Oh and my favorite you call your local store looking for something and they check all their stores then ship it to you if they find it!! Love them and would marry them if woman on Department Store marriage was legal.

Daaaang. ^_^ /emoticons/[email protected] 2x" width="20" height="20" />

I didn't even get past the makeup to look at the other parts of the store! Lol
All this talk about makeup and shoes ... does no one think of the bags? 

I am not a shoe person, but I could buy handbags all.day.long.  And Nordstrom certainly has some fine looking ones.

 
All this talk about makeup and shoes ... does no one think of the bags?  I am not a shoe person, but I could buy handbags all.day.long.  And Nordstrom certainly has some fine looking ones.
Ehhhh. I have a few bags- but I usually just end up only carrying around a black spiked small one (can't have big bags- I WILL fill them and it will be heavy and I won't learn my lesson ever lol) cause it matches everything cause all I ever seem to wear is black lol. That it I only end up carrying around the diaper bag. But let me loose at unif and Jeffery Campbell sellers (online, mostly) and I will easily lose hundreds upon hundreds of dollars. All I asked for for Christmas was makeup and shoes lol.
 
When I was a kid, there was a mall here that had a split Nordstrom. On one side of the mall, it was nothing but shoes. I was in college before I realized there was another separate store with makeup and clothes across the walkway. It was *magical*. That mall has since been completely rebuilt, and that Nordy's has moved to a different part of the mall and combined. It's just not the same.

 
Oh gosh, the handbags at Nordstrom get me all the time! The Michael Kors Selma went on sale there, and I finally caved since I have been waiting and waiting for it to lower in price. 

 
This is a little OT but I just got an e certificate as a Christmas gift from work for $400. Sephora is one of the featured gift card conversions. Eeek! Dare I?

 
OMG. Where do you work and how can I get a job there too? ;) /emoticons/[email protected] 2x" width="20" height="20" /> If you have some serious sephora haulin to do, go for it!!! But $400 is a lot. A LOT A LOT. is there anything else fun you might need that you can get with $400? KitchenAid mixer, a purse, other stuff? Can you break up the amount at all? (Just my thoughts :) /emoticons/[email protected] 2x" width="20" height="20" /> )

This is a little OT but I just got an e certificate as a Christmas gift from work for $400. Sephora is one of the featured gift card conversions. Eeek! Dare I?
 
Quote: Originally Posted by Kennelly1017 /img/forum/go_quote.gif

This is a little OT but I just got an e certificate as a Christmas gift from work for $400. Sephora is one of the featured gift card conversions. Eeek! Dare I?
omg where do you work and can I get a job there? 
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