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Originally Posted by nelliebelle1197 /img/forum/go_quote.gif

Then luckily your uncle will be able to explain the law and how jurisdiction works, the limit, power and scope of the judiciary, and how you have no claims whatsoever. He can also talk to you about ownership of your Facebook page and the legal definition of privacy and how social media is not protected unless you are the owner of said media (which you are not). He can also talk about truth in advertising, consumer protection, and Patty's liability - and possibly yours as an associated and unincorporated affiliate -when someone loses an eye after a twelve year old Avon product causes and infection and how companies like Elizabeth Arden, Pixi, etc. might possibly have claims should her false posturing about "sponSorship" cause their image or brand any negative publicity or liability. It should be a good conversation, and I do encourage you to call your uncle posthaste and engage the dialogue. Good luck!
yayyyy Nelliebelle! I can't say anything about law cuz I know ****...But I do know my friends always tell me: It's impossible to find your profile on fb! Yes, yes that IS the point, cuz my privacy is as high as it can be...but I guess that's too hard to do for any regular person, wait a minute, I am a regular person and I managed to do that O.O Interesting, if you want ppl to stay the hell away from your fb...you set your privacy settings high...otherwise is mmm YOUR fault, if say...anybody can access all your fb info...it doesn't need a master  mind to see a regular person's fb with low privacy settings! Also whatever info you put there...you put it there and with no privacy settings is out for the world to see :eek: /emoticons/[email protected] 2x" width="20" height="20" /> 

 
So following all this for the past few months and I still have to laugh at them. They know jack **** about the legal side of things and they themselves are going to be put on the spot by any reputable lawyer....Good luck on that on!!! Her scheme and those that help perpetrate it all need to step back and realize that we as a community here, have the right to our opinions. Registering here to simple spout off false information is so damn funny...Thanks for the laugh today RCB...lol

 
I had to remove a few posts because the information posted came from a personal Facebook wall instead of a public page.

Originally Posted by TTAmanda /img/forum/go_quote.gif

I am only going to say this once. Stay the hell off my Facebook and out of my personal info. This thread with my convo comes down or the whole site will. Ihave made phone calls about the invasion of privacy and as you were already warned legally about contacting pattys sponcers, you are all getting into a mess as far as harassment goes. My uncle is a judge and was the senator. You don't want this getting ugly. Stay out of my business!!!!!!
Now in regards to this. Anything you post on the internet that is open to the public, even on a personal Facebook wall, is not private and is not subject to "invasion of privacy". This is why Facebook allows the member to choose whether his or her posts are public, friends only or only to the person him or herself and even allows members to customize their wall so they can allow certain posts to be seen by just family members and not friends. If you want to keep something private, even on your personal wall, then you need to make your Facebook posts FRIENDS and not PUBLIC.

 
Zadi, that is why I never post anything I won't claim! Those privacy settings are too much work. My kids are cute and I have no problem providing an informed and coherent argument for anything political I post, so I don't have to stress over settings. I control press, image and social media at my job; we are forming policies now that tie social media usage to the ethics of the profession and require employees not to post anything on personal social media that relates to the organization or could be discoverable in a court of law. People are way too free on these things!

 
Just curious- has anyone besides me received creepy messages from Amanda the sex toy lady? She is very high-strung and dramatic.

 
Originally Posted by Hellocat4 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Just curious- has anyone besides me received creepy messages from Amanda the sex toy lady? She is very high-strung and dramatic.
wow! I don't know why that doesn't surprise me though 

 
Not creepy as in perverted. I guess I just find it creepy that she is contacting me. Was wondering if she only targeted me. She sent me a message calling me a "stalkerrrrr". I've noticed this is a signature tactic she employs when criticized. She has been known to post on fb about different "stalkers" she has, who I have figured to be customers with complaints, or people who have issues with the co. What co. Am I referring to? Don't know- my best guess is the sex shop or rcb.

 
Spellcheck??

"The Senator"- there is more than one senator in the US I assume. Senator of??

Originally Posted by TTAmanda /img/forum/go_quote.gif

I am only going to say this once. Stay the hell off my Facebook and out of my personal info. This thread with my convo comes down or the whole site will. Ihave made phone calls about the invasion of privacy and as you were already warned legally about contacting pattys sponcers, you are all getting into a mess as far as harassment goes. My uncle is a judge and was the senator. You don't want this getting ugly. Stay out of my business!!!!!!
 
I hate when ppl randomly throw around the word "stalker" all over the place. I had a stalker, they hacked into my email account, did something that really embarrassed me, constantly called my house, my cell phone and my mom's cell phone( I was 17 back then). I was SO AFRAID whenever I stepped out of the house for sometime, I was so scared I felt like I was being observed at all times...THAT'S a stalker...not talking about subscription related **** on a forum -.-' and looking at a PUBLIC profile...I seriously hope none of you even this Amanda lady experience what it actually is to be stalked, women have DIED! From crazy stalkers! It's serious ****! Not a word to be thrown around like that!

 
Is her company even registered to pay taxes, does she have business insurance or liability insurance?

How do we even know if the cosmetics she sells are real?

I know there was some Teambuy thing last year with some company selling fake OPI, also some Canadian company selling fake Vapur bottles <Vapur did go after them.....>.

There is fakes of almost everything thesedays.....even fake airplane parts- that was just in the news....scary!

Her business distributed "replica" bags and sunglasses- not sure what lawyer would be on her side with that??

Also RCB can not stop people from contacting other companies to ask questions. There is no law against that and it is a free country.

Is she going to turn around and sue you because you find out what she said happened to be untrue??

I know a bit about the law- not a lawyer, but have had to represent myself for many legal things and always won :) /emoticons/[email protected] 2x" width="20" height="20" />

I don't know that much about US law though as I am in Canada.

Originally Posted by Nightgem /img/forum/go_quote.gif

So following all this for the past few months and I still have to laugh at them. They know jack **** about the legal side of things and they themselves are going to be put on the spot by any reputable lawyer....Good luck on that on!!! Her scheme and those that help perpetrate it all need to step back and realize that we as a community here, have the right to our opinions. Registering here to simple spout off false information is so damn funny...Thanks for the laugh today RCB...lol
 
Wow. I came upon this thread whilst waiting for the PopSugar January thread to update with more posts and I have been *transfixed* ~ and I don't mean in a good way. o_O

In case Amanda or Patti/Patty, in whatever hellish incarnation they might be taking now, are reading this, I have a few points they might want to consider:

1) Zadi is smarter than you.

2) Once you've emailed someone, you've put yourself out there. Only an idiot sends an offensive email to a stranger and expects to retain their privacy.

3) A brain tumor, whilst a terrible thing, doesn't give you license to abuse or cheat others. When I was dx'd with MS several years ago, I did my damnedest to put forth even more effort for my clients ~ because I had too much frickin' pride to use my illness as an excuse.

It's called "character" ~ you might want to try it sometime.

And once my illness got in the way of my ability to perform for my clients, I retired. That's called "professionalism." It ain't just a high score word in Scrabble.

4) MUT is a website that avails itself of sponsors (says so on each page). Only an utter **** would advertise that they have a business and then get pissed off when a site they post on offers advertising space on said website.

5) Hire a proof-reader for EVERYTHING you post. In fact, hire a legitimate publicist ~ because SERIOUSLY, you NEED one.

6) Expect to LOSE money when you first start a business venture. Especially in a subscription-based service. First, you need to cultivate a client base (surely, your businessman hubby should have told you that) ~ and to do that, you bend over backwards, offering the highest quality products/services. Once you've garnered that client base, you can use their numbers as leverage in getting great deals with distributors and sponsors.

If your products are good enough, your client base will grow. If your products are *great* and your customer service (see #3) is good, it will grow exponentially.

7) Hold your standards of product quality HIGHER than what YOU'D personally be satisfied with.

8) When the proverbial faecal matter is hitting the air-moving appliance, retreat and regroup. Don't come into (or send your lackeys in your stead) a public forum and have a hissy fit. Or, as my people call them: "m3ltd0wn5." It's just ... wrong. And you end up looking *extremely* foolish. Yannow ... like you do NOW.

I apologize to the powers that be if I'm breaking the rules by addressing her so, but I just really couldn't stand it anymore. In my past incarnation as a forensic psychologist, I've dealt with many a loon mentally ill offender, so I'm used to ... presentations of mental imbalance. But this ... this just took the freakin' cake. o_O

 
Originally Posted by BeachBoheme /img/forum/go_quote.gif

Wow. I came upon this thread whilst waiting for the PopSugar January thread to update with more posts and I have been *transfixed* ~ and I don't mean in a good way. o_O

In case Amanda or Patti/Patty, in whatever hellish incarnation they might be taking now, are reading this, I have a few points they might want to consider:

1) Zadi is smarter than you.
LMAO Nah, the MUT members are the smarter ones since 9 out of 10 times they're the ones who find out something, I just follow up and tend to be more vocal but in all honesty the members are the ones who should be given credit for numerous things, not me.

 
Wow, looks like I missed a few updates in the RCB saga. This is quite the soap opera, and somehow there are always wild new developments, lol!

By the way....does anyone know what "sponcers" are? :p /emoticons/[email protected] 2x" width="20" height="20" />

 
Is it like pinchers for makeup?

Originally Posted by rockhoundluna /img/forum/go_quote.gif

Wow, looks like I missed a few updates in the RCB saga. This is quite the soap opera, and somehow there are always wild new developments, lol!

By the way....does anyone know what "sponcers" are? :p /emoticons/[email protected] 2x" width="20" height="20" />
 
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I agree, beautyma, abt throwing the term "stalker" around. That is a serious crime, and people who do that diminish what stalking really is. It reminds me of something a teenager might say. She posted this on the rcb fb page too, so you can see how freely she uses this term: Red Carpet Box Patty, watch posting from your personal account here That's how the stalkers find your page and post your private posts publically! 17 hours ago · Like What I find interesting, is how they are so concerned abt having their privacy violated, yet it was perfectly okay for patti to post private customers addresses and personal info. The double standard is absolutely crazy and illogical.

 
ughhh they infuriate me so much! These women are I bed 10 or 20 years older than me and they sound so stupid and immature making posts like that, like you said, teenagers 

 

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