Red Carpet Box

[Rach212]

Originally Posted by Hellocat4 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Lots of lies on the fb page. Rcb claims they never opened the handbags, therefore didn't know about fake labels. A customer asked "then how did you put the eyeliner in the pocket of the handbag"? Rcb comes back with, "we'll, actually we do open them, however we try to keep contact to a minimum".

I hope the fb page closes, because this is where patty started having success reeling in her victims. Jenn made things worse by showing patty how to gain customers thru freebies, photo shares, and giveaways.

I like how RCB keeps saying "emails me at <patty's email address> but keeps saying the owner is gone for the week for bereavement .... I think it is Patty posting but just doesn't want to deal with everyone getting angry.  She needs time to come up with a good excuse for this mess.  And OMG that Amanda girl is as wordy as Patty in her responses ... a barcode scanner is not the authority on products.  Just because something is for sale for $xx.xx doesn't mean it is worth that or that someone will pay it.   And now all of a sudden she has known Patti for 4 years ... hmmm

 

[Rach212]

Originally Posted by beautymadn3ss /img/forum/go_quote.gif

They are defending themselves by saying that the purse was a freebie so it doesn't matter anyways -.-' lol...

Oh that totally makes it ok then.  LOL

 

[rockhoundluna]

OMG that is so ridiculous, what she is saying. There is no way that could be a legitimate River Island bag, at least I don't think so. I've looked at the bags on their site. They are styled all in caps: RIVER ISLAND.

The ones she sent out are styled all in lowercase: river island.

I think it's a counterfeit River Island and then they taped a counterfeit Vida label over it for whatever reason. Regardless, with the bag on ebay for FIVE DOLLARS right now, I have trouble believing it's a genuine River Island.

 

[classybroad]

I just can't believe how many people would buy this junk STILL. This thread goes back a few months- are people too lazy to google?

I would LOVEEEE to start a box sub and I am a buyer but I am TERRIFIED to let down people if they don't enjoy the goods. And yet she has so many people paying for crap!!!

 

[Rach212]

Originally Posted by Hellocat4 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
This is the Founder. Patricia Martin. I have been on bereavement leave. I sent out packages as my first priority before I left. Regarding the Vida stickers. I had my partner fedex me a bag. I saw what many were talking about. Then I checked on the name brand that is River Island Handbags. They are an upscale, UK based handbag company and I will link you to more information. I myself had packaged over 15 bags before my flight. Then I was hospitalized. I apologize for my absence. River Island Handbags are as I said, a quality handbag and unknown to me as was Vida as a brand name. I buy from wholesalers and the purse is a gift. My team of partners are trying to assist you in the best way they know how. Here is the link to the River Island Handbags: www.riverisland.com. I cannot return to my residence until Sunday or Monday as I was also hospitalized here in Georgia from a possible complication as a result of my flight. I am now released and am able to communicate but I need to assist my mother with her affairs and I will return by Monday. Whether Vida or River Island, this is a beautiful handbag and quality. I love European handbags and was blessed to acquire them unknowingly. If you are unhappy with any or all of the subscription based upon the brand name of my gift which I had no knowledge of, or if your sunglasses are somehow defective, please know that I take full responsibility. You may return any items that are defective in nature and I will also compensate the return by shipping a new pair and also take care of your return shipping through paypal. I also reviewed the sunglasses and they were fine. However, I do not ever dispute your claims, all we ask is a return so we may also make a claim to our suppliers. Thank you for your patience, my partner will continue to answer your concerns and we as a company will not neglect your concerns purposely. www.riverisland.com is the link to your free gift.

Thought I would post the latest. I haven't read it all yet. It makes my eyes bleed. I saw that she was "hospitalized" now in addition to family deaths.

As rockhoundluna pointed out in her blog, the upscale line is RIVER ISLAND and the bags that were sent out are river island.  Or maybe I have it backward ... either way, what was sent out are (obviously) not the upscale designer handbags.  

hospitalized from the flight to help her mother deal with her father's affairs ... 

she had to have her "partner" fedex a bag to her?  seriously?  the partner couldn't take a photo?  OK.  

"Whether Vida or River Island, this is a beautiful handbag and quality. I love European handbags and was blessed to acquire them unknowingly."    is she serious??  then she goes on to call the handbag a "gift which she had no knowledge of" even though part of her RCB spiel is that every box comes with a purse/clutch??  Then links again to the upscale river island and calls it "your free gift"

" I do not ever dispute your claims, all we ask is a return so we may also make a claim to our suppliers."       I would *love* to see the claim she makes on that one ... 

OMG this woman is delusional!!!

 

[Rach212]

Originally Posted by classybroad /img/forum/go_quote.gif

I just can't believe how many people would buy this junk STILL. This thread goes back a few months- are people too lazy to google?

I would LOVEEEE to start a box sub and I am a buyer but I am TERRIFIED to let down people if they don't enjoy the goods. And yet she has so many people paying for crap!!!

The thing with facebook though is when your friends start hitting "share" and trying to get you to join a page so that they can win something ... a lot of people jsut do it and then think "wow this looks good" and run with it, instead of researching the company.  As if seeing it on FB automatically makes it legit.  

Although ... I saw a friend on FB talking about the PopSugar Must Have and googling it brought me here to MUT and I got sucked into sub box overload ...  so ... googling is dangerous, too!   /emoticons/[email protected] 2x" width="20" height="20" />

 

[kawaiimeows]

She just commented on her post with another speech defending her company, yet deleted the post that had all of the negative feed back on it. So clearly she has time to address the issues during her "bereavement" but is more concerned with defending her products. I really hope someone points out the obvious difference in typefaces between the River Island site and her "River Island" purses.

 

[yousoldtheworld]

I am going to agree with everything about this woman pointing to an untreated mental illness. I normally wouldn't say something like that because I certainly don't want to seem like I'm being insensitive about mental illness, but this is ridiculous.

And the stories just keep coming, and they keep changing. That's what gets me. It's not enough to be on bereavement leave (and frankly, a simple "I am out of town for a while" would suffice)...but now she's hospitalized due to complications from her travel for bereavement. If any other issues pop up, I can't imagine what will be next...caught the black plague while being hospitalized due to illness incurred during travel for bereavement? I'm not saying she isn't hospitalized, and I'm not saying she didn't have a death in the family...but lord. All of these excuses combined with all of the justification for the garbage she's sending out. It's always someone else's fault and there's always some huge tragic reason behind every issue. On at least two occasions and likely a lot more, she has pretended to be someone else. What the heck??

With all of these tales, who is going to send the crap back and trust that they're going to get their refund?

 

[yousoldtheworld]

And I see that she is still referring to Jane as a "sponsor".

 

[Hellocat4]

"The bag most likely is discontinued or misstiched, I have no idea on why this is the case as I admit I have no knowledge of either brand other than what is googled, I'm only trying to be helpful as to the stitching of the name on the bag." Wow. She comes up with all kinds of crazy explanations. As if a high-end bag would be mis-stitched. I, also, noticed she is still continuing to tout Jane as a sponsor, which I know for a fact is untrue. I personally contacted Jane, and they promptly responded with an emphatic 'no'.

 

[nelliebelle1197]

No, that is Amanda the Toy Lady, who seems to make  a living defending RCB and selling sex toys on facebook. Not necessarily in that order.

Originally Posted by LillyAmanda /img/forum/go_quote.gif


Cheap Asian items. Just like I predicted last night in my post about trademark infringement being a felony-- That woman is buying in bulk from Asian makers of fake designer purses.

BTW, I know " Amanda" is a fairly common name, but I need to state that I am not involved with those RCB people at all. Never would stoop that low!!!

 

[Amanda ToyLady]

No, that is Amanda the Toy Lady, who seems to make  a living defending RCB and selling sex toys on facebook. Not necessarily in that order.

How about getting a life and staying out of mine? Patmartin@MSN or whatever it is would be her husband pat. Yes pat and Patricia. You guys fish for info and fabricate so much its disgusting.

 

[Hellocat4]

Your fabricating is likewise disgusting. Particularly, because it involves assisting a scam artist to hoodwink people out of their money. Very unethical and shameful.

 

[LillyAmanda]

Originally Posted by zadidoll /img/forum/go_quote.gif

Quote: Originally Posted by yousoldtheworld /img/forum/go_quote.gif

Quote: Originally Posted by kawaiimeows /img/forum/go_quote.gif

She keeps saying "the owner is on bereavement leave" who is this running the facebook then?
Here's a direct quote:

Contact me directly at [email protected] to make arrangements. I have contacted each of you publicly and personally and am willing to help anyway I can. If possible it would be better to wait until Monday and let the owner deal with this so she can stay focused on her mother until then.

Wouldn't that email address be...Patti's? And it says "contact me directly"...and then refers to the owner as a separate person. So either this person is saying contact me directly at someone else's email, or this is another case of multiple personalities.


She actually has a few addresses similar to that but yeah, that's one of her email address and with her it does come off as if she has DID.


I don't believe that DID actually exists. Most countries other than the USA do not recognize DID as a psychological possibility.

I know that narcissistic personality disorder does, and so does anti-social behavior and anti-social thought processes which often accompany extreme narcissism. Patty is an example of both colliding in the public arena.

Here's my assessment regarding the emails: More than 1 person is helping her. She is obviously the procurer of the goods, but doesn't wrap and package and ship, most likely.

She has others " to take the blame" and to respond to angry people FOR HER. A narcissist WOULD NOT want to take any blame personally. Never less than perfect to the world.

That part is what struck me so hard in her rant on the ROR about " I even gave her an expensive jar of La Mer creme to make her happy".  Who among us doesn't know how expensive La Mer  products are??  She wanted to place HER financial standing and possession of something SO SPECIAL above even her rant about the lovely customer she was libeling.

When a person adds excessive details about themselves to what is supposed to be a factual reporting,  big red flag that they are a narcissist.

Patricia started the RCB as a total rip off of other people for personal financial gain because she does not CARE about anyone else's feelings, or money, or health ( sending old and expired products).

A person with anti-social personality traits does not CARE about anyone but themselves. They lack empathy, sympathy, true love, truly nurturing feelings towards children, etc.

 

[USAFWifey]

Originally Posted by rockhoundluna /img/forum/go_quote.gif

My friend is soooo pissed about this, and she said that three or four of the others complaining are in their sub group. I told her to start a paypal claim, that is what I'd do. She got not at all what was described. I just sent her an email to ask if I can post the photos on this forum (she's not a member and is pretty new to sub boxes), she told me I could post them on the blog  and I did. There is NO WAY that RCB didn't notice that tag. You can SEE THROUGH IT! Ugh. They are so shady.

Heyyyyyy Jennifer!!! Someone messaged me on Facebook after reading the rants that myself, and a few other of my FB friends posted...  gave me this link and welcomed me here to share... So, I'm here to share my experience... here we go!!! 

The "unhappy customers" & myself are all in a sub box group together, and when 1 of the members raved about her past boxes, we were all anxious to see the new one for January!!!

Well, when January came out... the bag enticed us all.. it's cute, in person.. no lie... my cream one is right beside me! It was what lured me in... My only wish was that I listened to Jennifer back when she tried warning all of us about RCB! So fast forward to yesterday... we all received our packages the same day... ALL of us upset one way or another.. for me personally, I had NO eyeliner, and my D&G (obvious FAKES - very cheaply put together) aviators were scratched all over the lens. They were wrapped in a stiff plastic sleeve, and then wrapped in bubble wrap, then stuffed into a smaller gold bubble wrap envelope and shoved into the purse... sooo I can imagine that if they were real in ANY SENSE.. they would not arrive to me in a stiff plastic sleeve, but maybe in a cloth sleeve/pouch of some sort. I am not familiar with D&G, but I mean, c`mon.. my Betsey Johnson sunglasses from LBB arrived in their own cute pink sleeve for storing!!!! 

The lip gloss I received was vanilla... I tested it.. no issues, and was actually nice. I'll look into the expiration of this very soon... I haven't opened the shadow/primer set.. I'm sure it is tainted in one way or another. Plus, I do not use hard pressed shadows... I am more of a loose, pigment shadow type of girl!!! /emoticons/[email protected] 2x" width="20" height="20" /> I think the necklace is adorable.. I'll wear it with the occasional outfit! 

So I wait for others to post, including the one who raved about their past boxes, and even she was upset!! Another group member's aviators were scratched as well... another didn't receive an eyeliner like me. Another was "content" with hers, as she received the white bag with a plastic framed pair of sunglasses that although were fake as well, looked 1,000x better than these aviators!!! Someone on the RCB FB page said to look in the pocket of my bag for the eyeliner, and as I was dumping my bag and opening the pocket, I discovered the "fabric tape label" over the original tag... and thought to myself.. WTF, Are you serious?? I could immediately see through the sticker.. and the sticker is even cut unevenly... just wrong on soooo many levels.. I can't even begin to write about it.. Of course their FB page went crazy when we all learned of the label issue. 

I immediately email her of my issues, sunglasses, no eyeliner, and inquiring about the sticker label.. and she responds to me on FB telling me and everyone else to send pics of our damaged sunglasses. I write to her, along with my picture, requesting a plastic framed set because the 1 person in our group who got them, had zero issues with them! I didn't want another tainted pair from that set, they obviously were maybe a slightly damaged lot that would go unnoticed to the unknown.. but I, inspect my items closely!! She responds back telling me she'll grant my request for a plastic framed set and that she'll ship the eyeliner to me ASAP. As it goes for me, at this point, I am content with the purchase. Am I happy she tried pulling one over on us, NO... Do I think everyone should be aware of this.. YES! So, that is why I am posting my experience here. 

As for the others in the sub box group.. I believe some have been communicating with her through email/facebook PM... The others are posting on the FB page. I do not know if any have opened PayPal claims against her for false advertisement or "not receiving product as promised" or however PayPal calls it. 

Any questions.. I'll be glad to answer, if I can! 

Thanks for letting me share!!! 

-Sarah

 

[kitnmitns]

Originally Posted by nelliebelle1197 /img/forum/go_quote.gif

No, that is Amanda the Toy Lady, who seems to make  a living defending RCB and selling sex toys on facebook. Not necessarily in that order.

That never stops being funny

 

[zadidoll]

Thanks for sharing Sarah. I hope that you decide to open a dispute because it is misleading, outright fraud really, to do that with the purses.

 

[nelliebelle1197]

You know I posted that for your benefit.

Originally Posted by kitnmitns /img/forum/go_quote.gif

That never stops being funny

 

[bluelion]

What were the other items in the bag? Wasn't she advertising an eyeshadow palette?

I'd like to see someone return it just to see if they'd follow through on the refund (plus shipping cost.)

 

[rockhoundluna]

Originally Posted by USAFWifey /img/forum/go_quote.gif

Quote: Originally Posted by rockhoundluna /img/forum/go_quote.gif

My friend is soooo pissed about this, and she said that three or four of the others complaining are in their sub group. I told her to start a paypal claim, that is what I'd do. She got not at all what was described. I just sent her an email to ask if I can post the photos on this forum (she's not a member and is pretty new to sub boxes), she told me I could post them on the blog  and I did. There is NO WAY that RCB didn't notice that tag. You can SEE THROUGH IT! Ugh. They are so shady.
Heyyyyyy Jennifer!!! Someone messaged me on Facebook after reading the rants that myself, and a few other of my FB friends posted...  gave me this link and welcomed me here to share... So, I'm here to share my experience... here we go!!! 

The "unhappy customers" & myself are all in a sub box group together, and when 1 of the members raved about her past boxes, we were all anxious to see the new one for January!!!

Well, when January came out... the bag enticed us all.. it's cute, in person.. no lie... my cream one is right beside me! It was what lured me in... My only wish was that I listened to Jennifer back when she tried warning all of us about RCB! So fast forward to yesterday... we all received our packages the same day... ALL of us upset one way or another.. for me personally, I had NO eyeliner, and my D&G (obvious FAKES - very cheaply put together) aviators were scratched all over the lens. They were wrapped in a stiff plastic sleeve, and then wrapped in bubble wrap, then stuffed into a smaller gold bubble wrap envelope and shoved into the purse... sooo I can imagine that if they were real in ANY SENSE.. they would not arrive to me in a stiff plastic sleeve, but maybe in a cloth sleeve/pouch of some sort. I am not familiar with D&G, but I mean, c`mon.. my Betsey Johnson sunglasses from LBB arrived in their own cute pink sleeve for storing!!!! 

The lip gloss I received was vanilla... I tested it.. no issues, and was actually nice. I'll look into the expiration of this very soon... I haven't opened the shadow/primer set.. I'm sure it is tainted in one way or another. Plus, I do not use hard pressed shadows... I am more of a loose, pigment shadow type of girl!!! /emoticons/[email protected] 2x" width="20" height="20" /> I think the necklace is adorable.. I'll wear it with the occasional outfit! 

So I wait for others to post, including the one who raved about their past boxes, and even she was upset!! Another group member's aviators were scratched as well... another didn't receive an eyeliner like me. Another was "content" with hers, as she received the white bag with a plastic framed pair of sunglasses that although were fake as well, looked 1,000x better than these aviators!!! Someone on the RCB FB page said to look in the pocket of my bag for the eyeliner, and as I was dumping my bag and opening the pocket, I discovered the "fabric tape label" over the original tag... and thought to myself.. WTF, Are you serious?? I could immediately see through the sticker.. and the sticker is even cut unevenly... just wrong on soooo many levels.. I can't even begin to write about it.. Of course their FB page went crazy when we all learned of the label issue. 

I immediately email her of my issues, sunglasses, no eyeliner, and inquiring about the sticker label.. and she responds to me on FB telling me and everyone else to send pics of our damaged sunglasses. I write to her, along with my picture, requesting a plastic framed set because the 1 person in our group who got them, had zero issues with them! I didn't want another tainted pair from that set, they obviously were maybe a slightly damaged lot that would go unnoticed to the unknown.. but I, inspect my items closely!! She responds back telling me she'll grant my request for a plastic framed set and that she'll ship the eyeliner to me ASAP. As it goes for me, at this point, I am content with the purchase. Am I happy she tried pulling one over on us, NO... Do I think everyone should be aware of this.. YES! So, that is why I am posting my experience here. 

As for the others in the sub box group.. I believe some have been communicating with her through email/facebook PM... The others are posting on the FB page. I do not know if any have opened PayPal claims against her for false advertisement or "not receiving product as promised" or however PayPal calls it. 

Any questions.. I'll be glad to answer, if I can! 

Thanks for letting me share!!! 

-Sarah

YAYY! She's here! This is my friend who provided me with the photos on my blog. I'm just glad it was discovered right away this time, maybe at least one group of ladies can be prevented from being her victims twice. RCB just keeps finding new ways to sink further into shadiness!

Originally Posted by bluelion /img/forum/go_quote.gif

What were the other items in the bag? Wasn't she advertising an eyeshadow palette?

I think Sarah sent me a pic of the whole bag and I believe there was indeed some eyeshadow. Hard Candy brand I think?  Hopefully it wasn't that stuff that you guys were mentioning being from 2002.