Red Carpet Box

[nelliebelle1197]

And this made my decision to drop GB US really easy

Originally Posted by EmGee /img/forum/go_quote.gif

It is not only the smaller box companies doing this.

Glossybox Canada was just caught out and admits to getting items from 3rd parties.....

 

[beautymadn3ss]

That kinda helps me feel better about dropping GB, but knowing what items they will have this month doesn't help -.-' D:

 

[TacomaGirl]

This thread is amazing, just for the comic relief alone. I am dumbfounded that this company hasn't folded yet. 

 

[rockhoundluna]

It simply boggles my mind how this woman continues to get subscribers. A few months ago, I was the admin of a sub box group on Facebook. I posted about RCB, warning members about them and posting multiple links to customer complaints, etc, all the info on expired products That I'd seen online, ... showing clearly that it was super-shady-tastick!

and yet I still had several people in the group sub to them. I've been really thinking about this, and I've about decided that her target demographic must be women who love makeup but who are just either too lazy to do background work on the companies they buy from OR women who just ...don't mind using potentially expired products from a shady seller.

A couple ladies in the group were involved in the FB sub box called...Ooh La La Makeup (counterfeit MAC) and being as we had no less than 7 women win PayPal cases against her...I'd have thought people would avoid other subs run out of a basement like the plague. Sigh.

 

[zadidoll]

Ms MAC or whatever her group name is has been shut down time and time again and yet keeps popping up on Facebook with literally THOUSANDS of fans who KNOWINGLY buy counterfeit MAC from her. I don't get people like that because you're not buying MAC! Those who do are nothing more than a big ol' liar and fake.

 

[QueenG]

Maybe there is just that niche market that actually likes buying counterfeit products......Like with designer purses or shoes. They actually just like that stuff......Its not for everyone, as this thread, RCB, and other examples are proving. But they exist and are out there. I've had horrible experiences with discontinued makeup and my skin is sensitive so I can't possible imagine buying such things. But I guess there are some consumers out there who can. As long as companies diclose the fact that there are discontinued and ensure they are not expired, everything should be dandy. Its not ok to attack your customer base, make empty, frivolous threats, and so on and such forth.

 

[Honicakes]

Originally Posted by QueenG /img/forum/go_quote.gif

Maybe there is just that niche market that actually likes buying counterfeit products......Like with designer purses or shoes. They actually just like that stuff......Its not for everyone, as this thread, RCB, and other examples are proving. But they exist and are out there. I've had horrible experiences with discontinued makeup and my skin is sensitive so I can't possible imagine buying such things. But I guess there are some consumers out there who can. As long as companies diclose the fact that there are discontinued and ensure they are not expired, everything should be dandy. Its not ok to attack your customer base, make empty, frivolous threats, and so on and such forth.

I think you might be right...

It doesn't make sense - I mean I can only assume those are uneducated buyers (or they just aren't thinking clearly).  I do kind of get the impulse to want a thing that "seems" designer for a cheaper price (especially if you can't afford the real thing).  But when you stop and think about it - the reason *most* designer items are more expensive is because they are higher quality.  For cosmetics, the ingredients are better and so they work better (ie make up blends better and is more pigmented and is less irritating to the skin).  For purses, the fabrics are better quality - they are stitched very well etc.  So yeah - that fake Coach bag might impress someone from across the street - but it is going to fall apart in a month - vs a real Coach bag that will last much longer.  I don't get how cosmetics are the same though just because - who is going to "LOOK" at your cosmetics sitting at home in a drawer?  It's not like when you put on MAC eyeshadow there is a little MAC logo on your browbone so people KNOW you are wearing MAC.  So in the case of cosmetics it just seems silly to buy a bunch of fake stuff that wont look good when you wear it just so you can think you have a drawer full of "MAC" at home.

/end rant

 

[parisnicole1989]

Originally Posted by Honicakes /img/forum/go_quote.gif

I think you might be right...

It doesn't make sense - I mean I can only assume those are uneducated buyers (or they just aren't thinking clearly).  I do kind of get the impulse to want a thing that "seems" designer for a cheaper price (especially if you can't afford the real thing).  But when you stop and think about it - the reason *most* designer items are more expensive is because they are higher quality.  For cosmetics, the ingredients are better and so they work better (ie make up blends better and is more pigmented and is less irritating to the skin).  For purses, the fabrics are better quality - they are stitched very well etc.  So yeah - that fake Coach bag might impress someone from across the street - but it is going to fall apart in a month - vs a real Coach bag that will last much longer.  I don't get how cosmetics are the same though just because - who is going to "LOOK" at your cosmetics sitting at home in a drawer?  It's not like when you put on MAC eyeshadow there is a little MAC logo on your browbone so people KNOW you are wearing MAC.  So in the case of cosmetics it just seems silly to buy a bunch of fake stuff that wont look good when you wear it just so you can think you have a drawer full of "MAC" at home.

/end rant

Lol very valid point! Not that I was ever interested in crap like this, but it's funny how some people have such a skewed sense of value... And it's not like Mac is THAT expensive. A knock off purse makes more sense because that's the difference between say $100 and $1000.. I don't buy fakes..But that reasoning to me makes more sense than a $14 eyeshadow and a $7 eyeshadow..Ya know?

 

[Dalylah]

Originally Posted by QueenG /img/forum/go_quote.gif

Maybe there is just that niche market that actually likes buying counterfeit products......Like with designer purses or shoes. They actually just like that stuff......Its not for everyone, as this thread, RCB, and other examples are proving. But they exist and are out there. I've had horrible experiences with discontinued makeup and my skin is sensitive so I can't possible imagine buying such things. But I guess there are some consumers out there who can. As long as companies diclose the fact that there are discontinued and ensure they are not expired, everything should be dandy. Its not ok to attack your customer base, make empty, frivolous threats, and so on and such forth.

This is a good point. As someone with sensitive skin I can't use anonymous products without knowing their true ingredients. As far as purses go, I am not willing to shell out $500 for one either so I appreciate the knock offs. The big difference is that one is something you wear and one is something you wear on your skin.

 

[QueenG]

Honicakes and parisnicole1989- totally agree with you. Its gotta be a psychological thing too- looking in your drawer and telling yourself you have a whole MAC collection for cheap (even though it isn't) Maybe its just satisfying a need I don't really understand....

And I totally agree that higher priced designers have always meant quality. I have had about 3 Coach purses in the last 4 years. NONE of them ever fell apart on me, I just like changing styles and my mom also ended up stealing one /emoticons/[email protected] 2x" width="20" height="20" />. Anything else I used to buy for under 20 bucks would only last me a few months. I always choose quality over price. Price is just another number. Value is something more.

 

[TacomaGirl]

Originally Posted by QueenG /img/forum/go_quote.gif

Honicakes and parisnicole1989- totally agree with you. Its gotta be a psychological thing too- looking in your drawer and telling yourself you have a whole MAC collection for cheap (even though it isn't) Maybe its just satisfying a need I don't really understand....

And I totally agree that higher priced designers have always meant quality. I have had about 3 Coach purses in the last 4 years. NONE of them ever fell apart on me, I just like changing styles and my mom also ended up stealing one /emoticons/[email protected] 2x" width="20" height="20" />. Anything else I used to buy for under 20 bucks would only last me a few months. I always choose quality over price. Price is just another number. Value is something more.

Well said! I'm the same way. 

 

[Scoochie27]

And she failed!

 

[beautymadn3ss]

I don't get buying knock offs either...if I don't want to pay full price for a Mac item...I'll look for a dupe by a decent brand. I rather buy Wet n Wild than Mac knock offs that might be dangerous for my skin! Which if you think about it, you are playing with your skin's health! And if you f*** it up it might end up being much more expensive! What if you get a bad allergic reaction? Hospital bills are more expensive than any Mac product...

 

[Scoochie27]

You are so telling a lie!

 

[Beautyboxgal]

Originally Posted by Scoochie27 /img/forum/go_quote.gif

You are so telling a lie!

?

 

[EmGee]

Originally Posted by QueenG /img/forum/go_quote.gif 

Honicakes and parisnicole1989- totally agree with you. Its gotta be a psychological thing too- looking in your drawer and telling yourself you have a whole MAC collection for cheap (even though it isn't) Maybe its just satisfying a need I don't really understand....

And I totally agree that higher priced designers have always meant quality. I have had about 3 Coach purses in the last 4 years. NONE of them ever fell apart on me, I just like changing styles and my mom also ended up stealing one /emoticons/[email protected] 2x" width="20" height="20" />. Anything else I used to buy for under 20 bucks would only last me a few months. I always choose quality over price. Price is just another number. Value is something more.

I think people might like the knockoff packaging because when they go to their work/high school/bar they can pull that out and seem "cool"??

reminds me of what people in highschool might think??

one of my friens a few years ago was always powdering her face in public with her Chanel compact <hers was real,she only shopped at dept store>.

 

[beautymadn3ss]

Originally Posted by Scoochie27 /img/forum/go_quote.gif

You are so telling a lie!

Pardon me? I'm lying how exactly? And how do you know if I'm lying or not?

 

[Beautyboxgal]

I bet it's the RCB lady again coming in under a new pseudonym.
 

 

[beautymadn3ss]

That's my guess too...

 

[rockhoundluna]

Originally Posted by QueenG /img/forum/go_quote.gif

Maybe there is just that niche market that actually likes buying counterfeit products......Like with designer purses or shoes. They actually just like that stuff......Its not for everyone, as this thread, RCB, and other examples are proving. But they exist and are out there. I've had horrible experiences with discontinued makeup and my skin is sensitive so I can't possible imagine buying such things. But I guess there are some consumers out there who can. As long as companies diclose the fact that there are discontinued and ensure they are not expired, everything should be dandy. Its not ok to attack your customer base, make empty, frivolous threats, and so on and such forth.

Yep, that is exactly what I'm thinking. Most of us just can't fathom how people would knowingly put a product on their face that has NO company backing, NO ingredient list, TOTALLY unknown origins...sure maybe it says MAC on the outside but the insides are an unknown. But that MAC label, fake as it is, means enough to some people to risk it.

Or, with expired...I think that maybe some people just feel like the risk is worth it. I'm not one of them for sure.

Even if I didn't know a single thing about the company and I read that absurd long Facebook statement she made? I'd run. Fast.

The lady doth protest too much, methinks...