Red Carpet Box

[tinkerbll695]

Originally Posted by Amanda ToyLady /img/forum/go_quote.gif

Keeping in mind this is a BUSINESS and she has to MAKE a profit to continue running. what do you propose because it sounds to me like NOTHING will make you ladies happy??

Well, yes, the point of most businesses is to make a profit, but I think that the point that you're missing, since you have brought up profits a few times, is that these subscription boxes are meant to be values to customers. If I wanted to receive $25 worth of product for paying $25, I would go to Sephora or Ulta and pick out items for myself. I don't need someone else to spend my $25 for me and then give me discontinued makeup and accessories of questionably quality and authenticity.  I just signed up for Myglam/Ipsy because for $10 I'm getting well over $80 of product sent to me - full size and samples. Spending $25 and getting $25 of product in return is literally getting my money's worth, but again, that's not the point of these boxes and not what I want. The point is value! I want to spend $25 and get $50 or more in product in return. And before you say that Patty is one person and RCB is a startup business that is small and can't afford to buy on that scale, you should read up on Birchbox - it was started in an apartment with just two ladies heading it up. They managed to draw up a business plan and get makeup and skincare companies to work with them directly. And I believe their first shipment of boxes wasn't a huge number.

And, IMO and I believe many others, these boxes are suppose to provide us access to new products that we never heard of or wouldn't normally buy at a low cost so that we can try the products and continue to buy them if we like them. And for this reason, I don't mind if I don't get a full size item in my box because these are sample subscriptions (though I hate foil packets). Discontinued full size items are a big no- where is the lure in the full size product when I can't buy it again if I like it and because it could possibly be expired.

Value, great customer service, and new, exciting, quality items are what I look for in a box.

 

[mirandamanda]

I live in extremely rural South Dakota and thanks to many ladies here on MUT, I've learned so much about makeup and sample boxes. I would never have subscribed to BB (which I love) if it weren't for these forums. With that said, I wish I had $25 to spend at the nearest Ulta or Sephora to buy what I wanted. However, the nearest Ulta stores are on the other side of Nebraska, the other side of North Dakota and the other side of Minnesota. (By the other side, I mean the side of that state farthest from me). The nearest Sephora is a counter on the other side of the state, in a town I have never been to. I love these sub boxes because I can get things that I will probably never be able to get my hands on otherwise. If I had a Paypal, I probably will end up subbing to this one as well, just to see first hand her business practices and to get a box of stuff. I was always taught to treat others the way you want to be treated and to not judge a book by its cover. I certainly do appreciate the input of everyone here on this thread, positive and negative, because I wouldn't have found out about this box if not for these forums 

 Plus, with free shipping, I like getting these sub boxes.

 

[nelliebelle1197]

Originally Posted by lunadust /img/forum/go_quote.gif

The only one I've seen is the stock photo of a betsey johnson purse she was giving out as some sort of prize. Did I miss a pic?

Maybe that is what I am thinking of, but I am pretty sure she posted a picture and said this purse would be filled with your discontinued and expired makeup items. But I haven't looked at the page much so I may be wrong ....

 

[nelliebelle1197]

And I don't see how Avon is some sort of unattainable luxury brand. Or Betsey Johnson. And it is sort of surprising that a major national wholesaler takes Paypal.

Do you guys think maybe there is a market for this sort of thing? Maybe is it just not us. There has to be a market that think discontinued Avon makeup and discontinued/counterfeit sunglasses and purses are totally worth it. I am not being sarcastic. These lots wouldn't be available if someone wasn't buying them.

 

[glamourdolleyes]

You act is if its OUR fault she didn't make money. We didn't choose to put these items in the box, if SHE got too ambitious, not our fault. I own a business as well. Not a book my party kind of business and you have to SPEND MONEY TO MAKE MONEY. I don't complain to my customers when I have a sale and don't make money. That's how it happens. You get the word out, even if you're giving stuff away. Have you ever heard of "if you love the experience you will tell 1 person and if you hate it you'll tell 10"? There is NOTHING wrong with us not liking the box. You did, we don't harass you for it. And LAST SEASON!? Hahaha. That's a joke. Mine was from 2009 ( count 3 seasons ) , possibly even 2007. I join boxes to find new items. If I use it all up and want more, then what?

 

[QueenG]

The mascara I got was from 2006, Now I'm pretty good at math and that is definietely more than one season old! And not going anywhere near my eyes!

 

[lunadust]

I really don't believe any of these excuses. I'm sure she made money from this. Based on that ebay auction (which ended with no bidders so who knows what she actually paid or how many she bought. This seller sells a ton so must have a crazy supply), the glasses come to about 2 dollars each. We know she bought 100 of those earrings which the site says is 3 dollars each. Unless she paid over 20 dollars for 3 pieces of really old make-up, I don't see how she lost money.

 

[DiorAdora]

The mascara I got was from 2006, Now I'm pretty good at math and that is definietely more than one season old! And not going anywhere near my eyes!

Wow that is horrible! If she doesn't see what's wrong with her box now I don't think she ever will ! Ithrew all my crap away! That is what I got a box of old expired crap!

 

[QueenG]

That's pretty much where my box is going. I can keep the glasses but I don't know if my eyes will be UV ptotected by them either

 

[lunadust]

Originally Posted by QueenG /img/forum/go_quote.gif

That's pretty much where my box is going. I can keep the glasses but I don't know if my eyes will be UV ptotected by them either

Was the UV claim even on any of the stickers/tag? 

 

[QueenG]

There wasn't any stickers or tag on mine

 

[DiorAdora]

No stickers on my glasses!

 

[DreamWarrior]

Please stay on topic in regards to the Red Carpet Box and discontinue inappropriate messages that are OFF TOPIC.  This thread is being monitored closely and any topics or comments that are not related to the box, its services, or contents will be edited or deleted. 

In other words... Stop beating a dead horse.

 

[Beautyboxgal]

Wow!  Never saw that before.

I didn't realize that there were limits.  Guess I shouldn't have made my 'Old Bag' joke.  I will try to be more on topic going forward.

 

[bluepearl]

Of course I do, I'm being talked about so I'm going to keep posting.

P̶a̶t̶t̶y̶ Patty's friend, do you realize that this thread is the FIRST apropos match (and third overall) that comes up in Google when you search on "red carpet box"? You can't possibly think this continued antagonizing is doing y̶o̶u̶ her any favors in terms of the image you're projecting for the company, do you?

 

[zadidoll]

Just to clarify - Amanda is NOT Patty. It's been established she's not Patty.

 

[cutpiece]

Originally Posted by Amanda ToyLady /img/forum/go_quote.gif

If you want a box full of CURRENT season's samples that will cost her like .50 cents per sample - like BB - she can lower the price and put 10 samples in, shipping would be cheaper.

DISCONTINUED aka LAST SEASONS COLORS - in full sized with other items at a higher price is for those who WANT the lavish brands but cant afford them, which is really who the box is targeted to....

I'm sorry but this is a straw man argument if I ever saw one. I've watched the reviews on youtube, and she is putting discontinued products NOT "last seasons colors" in these boxes that representatives from these companies are actually advising people not to use/telling people that they are unsafe to use.  This is a BIG problem. I didn't read the entire thread, so forgive me if this had already been talked about it, but as someone who works in a field where the safety of the consumer comes first, this is a serious problem.

 

[bluepearl]

[VIDEO][/VIDEO]

Just to clarify - Amanda is NOT Patty. It's been established she's not Patty.

Sorry about that. It was getting hard to keep track. But in that case, I think it's even more vital that Patty stop Amanda from representing her company in this way!

 

[Yolanda Horton]

Originally Posted by Playedinloops /img/forum/go_quote.gif



Shady Subscription Services Law Group, LLC 

 

[Yolanda Horton]

Originally Posted by Jennifer Love /img/forum/go_quote.gif

 Birchbox better step up their game...seriously.

Ohh i so agree with that one after last month