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No I didn't order the box and 4 or 5 of my friends that were on the list to get the second box didn't want anymore but I'm sure she was putting on a show saying hey look these people are on the list because they are not after they saw my expired stuff wanted nothing to do with it. I really doubt she is gonna fill up last 25 so easy! That is why it says space available I'm sure! But that's just from the people I know who we're going to get it cancelled after they saw everything else going on!
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I mentioned it before, but it makes no sense to purchase discontinued items, expired or not. The point of these boxes is to find products we love and want to continue buying. How does Patty suggest we find the discontinued item if we love it?? Search eBay and buy in bulk like her?? Makes NO sense at all, any sane person would see that before throwing 32 bucks her way.
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There were pics on the RCB Facebook page
She keeps going on about how "much" you get with the discontinued full-size products and the $3 earrings and purses. It sounds like she doesn't comprehend what draws people to subscription boxes at all.
The more I read in this thread the more I'm wondering if it's possible that she's getting defensive because she really believes that the point of these boxes is to accumulate clutter and that the part about discovering and trying new/better/interesting products is just totally flying over her head.
The more I read in this thread the more I'm wondering if it's possible that she's getting defensive because she really believes that the point of these boxes is to accumulate clutter and that the part about discovering and trying new/better/interesting products is just totally flying over her head.
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i'm really curious to see what this next round of boxes is going to look like. hopefully people will post some pictures on RCB's facebook.
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It seems like for the most part its the same as the first 50 plus some more. Besides the issues about the first box, if I was one of the first 50, I'd be annoyed the second round received more than I did.Originally Posted by kawaiimeows /img/forum/go_quote.gif
i'm really curious to see what this next round of boxes is going to look like. hopefully people will post some pictures on their facebook.
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Why in the world would anyone want a box of discontinued items? I mean, so you fall in love with a product and then can't even buy it? What's the fun in that?
I mean, no offense, but if I want discontinued items, I go to the dollar store. Because that's part of what they sell. At least there I'll only pay a dollar for it, so who cares?
This box sounds terrible.
I mean, no offense, but if I want discontinued items, I go to the dollar store. Because that's part of what they sell. At least there I'll only pay a dollar for it, so who cares?
This box sounds terrible.
There are two types of discontinued products and she's misleading people with how she calls it discontinued when in reality's expired.
When I think discontinued I think of products like LORAC's VIP sales page where the items are discontinued and once sold that's it. I can think of so many examples of discontinued products. I personally don't mind discontinued so long as the product is not expired because then it needs to be thrown away.
In her case, the products are not only discontinued but expired and she's being deceptive by calling the products discontinued when it's expired. If she doesn't know the difference then she should contact each and every company she's pushing products of to ask if the products are expired and safe to use or not. If I were a customer who got a Stila product from her that was expired you better believe I'd be in contact with Stila and let them know what's going on. THEY can, if they so choose, to investigate and possibly issue her a cease and desist because it's THEIR name on the line. People will think that RCB are getting the products from the manufacturers who are dumping bad products onto RCB customers.
When I think discontinued I think of products like LORAC's VIP sales page where the items are discontinued and once sold that's it. I can think of so many examples of discontinued products. I personally don't mind discontinued so long as the product is not expired because then it needs to be thrown away.
In her case, the products are not only discontinued but expired and she's being deceptive by calling the products discontinued when it's expired. If she doesn't know the difference then she should contact each and every company she's pushing products of to ask if the products are expired and safe to use or not. If I were a customer who got a Stila product from her that was expired you better believe I'd be in contact with Stila and let them know what's going on. THEY can, if they so choose, to investigate and possibly issue her a cease and desist because it's THEIR name on the line. People will think that RCB are getting the products from the manufacturers who are dumping bad products onto RCB customers.
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There is a picture of a pink heart-shaped coin purse on her website, and there is a picture of a pink straw bag in the photo section of the Red Carpet Bag Facebook page. They are both kind of cute. But, not sophisticated, which I suppose red carpet is supposed to mean.
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i don't think it was ever confirmed that the pink heart coin purse on her website is the purse she's mailing out this round, for all we know it could be another illegally used stock photo.
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You arent happy with full sized items (discontinued meaning LAST season just so we are straight - the expired issue is FIXED) *edited by mod*
Keeping in mind this is a BUSINESS and she has to MAKE a profit to continue running. what do you propose because it sounds to me like NOTHING will make you ladies happy??
I mean that with the most respect but you are being very unrealistic!!
If you want a box full of CURRENT season's samples that will cost her like .50 cents per sample - like BB - she can lower the price and put 10 samples in, shipping would be cheaper.
DISCONTINUED aka LAST SEASONS COLORS - in full sized with other items at a higher price is for those who WANT the lavish brands but cant afford them, which is really who the box is targeted to....
I'm not employed by RCB - I'm just a business owner helping another business owner. But I dont see a clear solution here *edited by mod*.
The glasses are AUTHENTIC. theres no question therefore they are being distributed. her distributor was NOT ebay, she bought 250 pairs from the same distributor ross uses and she has the business paperwork on them from the company, which paypal has.
To get FULL sized current products, theres no way she could sell them at this kind of cost and make anything and for you ladies to expect that is just unreasonable.
You arent happy with full sized items (discontinued meaning LAST season just so we are straight - the expired issue is FIXED) *edited by mod*
Keeping in mind this is a BUSINESS and she has to MAKE a profit to continue running. what do you propose because it sounds to me like NOTHING will make you ladies happy??
I mean that with the most respect but you are being very unrealistic!!
If you want a box full of CURRENT season's samples that will cost her like .50 cents per sample - like BB - she can lower the price and put 10 samples in, shipping would be cheaper.
DISCONTINUED aka LAST SEASONS COLORS - in full sized with other items at a higher price is for those who WANT the lavish brands but cant afford them, which is really who the box is targeted to....
I'm not employed by RCB - I'm just a business owner helping another business owner. But I dont see a clear solution here *edited by mod*.
The glasses are AUTHENTIC. theres no question therefore they are being distributed. her distributor was NOT ebay, she bought 250 pairs from the same distributor ross uses and she has the business paperwork on them from the company, which paypal has.
To get FULL sized current products, theres no way she could sell them at this kind of cost and make anything and for you ladies to expect that is just unreasonable.
What would make people happy? Products that are not expired or discontinued. If you were around a few months ago (April) you would have seen the anger and outrage people had when Birchbox sent a BeFine product that was expired. NO ONE wants discontinued items because there is the risk that it's expired.
I highly suggest you read the other groups and threads regarding various subscriptions because you'll see what people like and what they don't like. And yes, people are going to complain regardless (read the Birchbox, Test Tube groups and threads) but companies like Birchbox, Beauty Army, MyGlam/Ipsy, Test Tube and Sample Society LISTEN to their customers. They don't send people to other forums - whose purpose are for members to discuss what the like and what they don't like, share their opinions - to harass people or to name call. I'll give you a good example of what happened with MyGlam earlier this year.
MyGlam launched last November with the first bag sent out last December. The bag was fantastic - Urban Decay (shadow and primer), Tarte (mascara), Mai Couture (blush or salicylic acid sheets) and NYX lip gloss. January's bag... ugh... that was a nightmare along with February's bag between shipping and the products people were PISSED. And boy oh boy they very VOCAL about it. In January members got Freeman Cucumber Facial Peel-Off Masque, Sheer Cover Duo Concealer (which didn't match numerous people's coloring and was an infomercial product), Wen Cleansing Conditioner (the infomercial product NOT the real item from QVC), theBalm Shady Lady OR theBalm Hot Ticket Nail Polish (those who got the polish were angry because the value was considerably less than the shadow... by $6 or $9). February was the WORST month. That was the month that more infomercial products and kiosk items were sent - the Dead Sea Premier TINY sachets, the X Out Shine Control (which came in a Meaningful Beauty imprinted tube which caused people to REALLY freak out thinking it was a mud mask), the NYX Roll On shadow (which was basically the only good item) as well as a piece of chocolate and another Freeman mask (that time sachets that were suppose to be part of the January bag). Oh there was practically a riot that month with how furious people were. March's bag was better - in my opinion - but the smell of the bag that month was nasty... in fact since January the smell of the bags were nasty (and I'm still convinced it was the glue used to seal the bags) but product wise it was better. Still there were so many people who were not happy. It wasn't until a couple of months after the bloggers meeting that things began to improve and only the last two months that the vast majority are happy with the bags and products. I love my bags and products the last three or four months (except that gold bag in June... didn't care for it).
The best thing your friend can do with her business is NOT buy from EBay. EBay is known for counterfeit products, expired goods and even used products. By knowingly buying from EBay or sites that sell "wholesales" products (like M•A•C) she takes the risk of buying and passing along expired and counterfeit goods. THAT DESTROYS reputations that can NEVER be recovered. I would suggest to Patricia to work with the companies to buy products at a bulk discount to put in her boxes. This way IF something happens she can go back to the company and get it worked out for the benefit of her customers. By buying off EBay SHE is the one liable for ANY damages that one of her subscribers may encounter. If someone used that expired Stila and ended up having to see a doctor SHE would be responsible not the person she bought it off of and not Stila but HER. She's not a LLC so SHE would be the one to pay the medical bills. As a business owner she needs to also LLC her company as well as obtain BUSINESS INSURANCE in the event a situation occurs because she's sending out "discontinued" and potentially expired or counterfeit products to unsuspecting customers.
The other best thing she can do is NOT to make threats. People are NOT going to shut up when it comes to threats and in fact it's going to make people MORE determined to post about it. Name calling - which both you and Patricia have done both here and via email - just destroys your own reputation. Just because someone doesn't like something and posts how the products are expired doesn't mean that Patricia has the right to call them a nasty, vulgar name which she's done. Personally, even if she fixes everything I know I won't be buying from someone whose personality is hostile. I'll give you another example, Glossybox - has a good worldwide reputation HOWEVER they had too many mistakes for me to stick with them. Doesn't matter how great the boxes have been the last two months the fact is that I don't trust them and will never go back to being a subscriber. Thankfully I listened to my gut instinct on this and didn't waste my $25.
I highly suggest you read the other groups and threads regarding various subscriptions because you'll see what people like and what they don't like. And yes, people are going to complain regardless (read the Birchbox, Test Tube groups and threads) but companies like Birchbox, Beauty Army, MyGlam/Ipsy, Test Tube and Sample Society LISTEN to their customers. They don't send people to other forums - whose purpose are for members to discuss what the like and what they don't like, share their opinions - to harass people or to name call. I'll give you a good example of what happened with MyGlam earlier this year.
MyGlam launched last November with the first bag sent out last December. The bag was fantastic - Urban Decay (shadow and primer), Tarte (mascara), Mai Couture (blush or salicylic acid sheets) and NYX lip gloss. January's bag... ugh... that was a nightmare along with February's bag between shipping and the products people were PISSED. And boy oh boy they very VOCAL about it. In January members got Freeman Cucumber Facial Peel-Off Masque, Sheer Cover Duo Concealer (which didn't match numerous people's coloring and was an infomercial product), Wen Cleansing Conditioner (the infomercial product NOT the real item from QVC), theBalm Shady Lady OR theBalm Hot Ticket Nail Polish (those who got the polish were angry because the value was considerably less than the shadow... by $6 or $9). February was the WORST month. That was the month that more infomercial products and kiosk items were sent - the Dead Sea Premier TINY sachets, the X Out Shine Control (which came in a Meaningful Beauty imprinted tube which caused people to REALLY freak out thinking it was a mud mask), the NYX Roll On shadow (which was basically the only good item) as well as a piece of chocolate and another Freeman mask (that time sachets that were suppose to be part of the January bag). Oh there was practically a riot that month with how furious people were. March's bag was better - in my opinion - but the smell of the bag that month was nasty... in fact since January the smell of the bags were nasty (and I'm still convinced it was the glue used to seal the bags) but product wise it was better. Still there were so many people who were not happy. It wasn't until a couple of months after the bloggers meeting that things began to improve and only the last two months that the vast majority are happy with the bags and products. I love my bags and products the last three or four months (except that gold bag in June... didn't care for it).
The best thing your friend can do with her business is NOT buy from EBay. EBay is known for counterfeit products, expired goods and even used products. By knowingly buying from EBay or sites that sell "wholesales" products (like M•A•C) she takes the risk of buying and passing along expired and counterfeit goods. THAT DESTROYS reputations that can NEVER be recovered. I would suggest to Patricia to work with the companies to buy products at a bulk discount to put in her boxes. This way IF something happens she can go back to the company and get it worked out for the benefit of her customers. By buying off EBay SHE is the one liable for ANY damages that one of her subscribers may encounter. If someone used that expired Stila and ended up having to see a doctor SHE would be responsible not the person she bought it off of and not Stila but HER. She's not a LLC so SHE would be the one to pay the medical bills. As a business owner she needs to also LLC her company as well as obtain BUSINESS INSURANCE in the event a situation occurs because she's sending out "discontinued" and potentially expired or counterfeit products to unsuspecting customers.
The other best thing she can do is NOT to make threats. People are NOT going to shut up when it comes to threats and in fact it's going to make people MORE determined to post about it. Name calling - which both you and Patricia have done both here and via email - just destroys your own reputation. Just because someone doesn't like something and posts how the products are expired doesn't mean that Patricia has the right to call them a nasty, vulgar name which she's done. Personally, even if she fixes everything I know I won't be buying from someone whose personality is hostile. I'll give you another example, Glossybox - has a good worldwide reputation HOWEVER they had too many mistakes for me to stick with them. Doesn't matter how great the boxes have been the last two months the fact is that I don't trust them and will never go back to being a subscriber. Thankfully I listened to my gut instinct on this and didn't waste my $25.
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Customer service is key to me! I don't feel like this company has it! Exp when my information is passesd to you and you claim you have nothing to with the company! I don't trust any of my info to red carpet box ! It is a major F in my book! I would never recommend it to anyone! This is not a service ! It is a joke! I don't even care what's in the box any longer!
