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Hey girls.  I'm new here. But I thought I would chime in and help. I am a hair stylist and have trained under some pretty good names. You have hair questions? I'm here to help!

Danielle

 
I don't know who the Hair mod is - but we can always use one that is qualified and knowledgeable.

Let Tony know, if you are interested.

 
What is the best way to add volume to fine hair, but a lot of it?!

<---- can see in picture what my current hair is... it's just a tad longer now

 
Darla I would be very interested in being a Mod for Hair for sure! Let me know! :) /emoticons/[email protected] 2x" width="20" height="20" />

Vixie- Few Questions for you before I can give you some suggestions.

Do you wash your hair everyday?

What do you use for shampoo and Conditioner?

What styling product do you currently use?

What heat tools do you use and how do you use them?

Are you having any hair loss?

Are you on any Medications?

 
Originally Posted by TattooGoddess/img/forum/go_quote.gif

Do you wash your hair everyday?

What do you use for shampoo and Conditioner?

What styling product do you currently use?

What heat tools do you use and how do you use them?

Are you having any hair loss?

Are you on any Medications?

I have the same issue as vixie13! Very fine thin hair, that needs volume!

So to answer those questions, myself:

Do you wash your hair everyday? No

What do you use for shampoo and Conditioner? Pantene & Dove Conditioner

What styling product do you currently use? None

What heat tools do you use and how do you use them? None

Are you having any hair loss? Not really,

 
Well that is your culprate (spelling?) there.

Pantene is a wax based shampoo. They add wax to add the shine. Wax adds weight. There are proff shampoos out there that do this as well. You just have to look. 

I don't know much about Dove so I can't really speak for it.

Ok first im glad to see you don't wash your hair everyday. This is not the best thing for your hair popular to belief.

Shampoo. I also was blessed with ultra fine hair. After one day it used to look greasy. Eww. Now im not a huge fan of off the shelf products due to alot of junk in the bottle. So I will give you two solutions.

Cheaper Route- John Freedia Root Boost. I think it is in a beige/tan squeeze bottle with green leaves on it. I have used this before and had good luck with it.

Best route- Sebastian Volumpt Shampoo and Conditioner. This is what I use everyday and it gives me great volume. It is a bit spendy but worth the money.

Now another reason that your hair may be limp is you have to much shampoo,cond, and product build up as well as mineral traces from your water. I dont know what kinda of water you have but my city has horrible hard water so I get what is called a Malibu Treatment. This is great for swimmers, hair with product build up and people with nasty water that leaves mineral build up causing the hair to be heavy with build up. It is fairly cheap. My salon charges $12 for it. But deppending on how much buildup you may need more then one. Oh and it smells amazing!

ok you dont use any products in your hair. Well that also could cause it a teeny bit. But not a ton. In the morning I use Sebastians Volumpt spray at the roots. You can let it dry or blow dry. But will get HUGE results if you blow dry down the hair shaft while your head is upside down.

Another thought. You could have some majorly clogged folicals that make your hair grow wonky. This is part of my issue. One of the reason again is residue on the scalp from what you use on your hair. To find out if this is it you need to get a scalp analisist done. To find some one who does this check if the salon retails the Brand NIOXIN. Nioxin is a brand for people who have hair loss and with limp hair due to residue. They have what is called scalp renue. Is goes in and cleans out your buildup in the folicle so your hair is not weighed down by junk.

Think of it this way. You have your folicle. There is a hair coming out of it. now say you have a icky tar on the top of your head that tar is gone to lay ontop of the folicle pushing the hair down on top of the head causing no volume. This is what product buildup is. Tar. 

So yeah might want to check that out.

I think that is what i wanted to tell you lol. If I remember anything else I will let you know. Hope this helps.

Oh Ps! It really does help to change your shampoos out a few times a year exspecially if you have seasons. Moisture based in the winter Protein Based in the Summer. But changing up helps your hair jump start again and gets the junk that is built up a little bit. Also look into Tea Tree Shampoo as a clarifying shampoo to Help some with build up ( do not use everyday maybe once a week)

 
Wow Thanks, Tattoogoddess you gave me a lot of information there.

I didn't realize Pantene contained so many waxes.

I also think my water my be a big problem, as I live in the city.

I grew up on in the country with well water from our land, and used TreSemme & Revlon shampoo. I had tons of volume to my hair.

Since moving to the city and living with my fiance, now I use Pantene (It's just cheap and widely available, here) and use hard city water. My hair has gotten so bad.

I will do what you suggested and check some of those products you mentioned, out.

I never really change my shampoo, unless I use a coloured one for coloured hair. But I do change my conditioner with the season, as my hair is really dry. 

I use Dove Daily moisturizer in the winter months, and volumizing one in the summer.

Another issue I have is split ends. Even after having them cut I still have outragous split ends, I realize my hair is really dry (It was bleached blonde for years, now its grown mostly out and been coloured dark)

K-Pak does nothing, nor does oils. It drives me crazy!!

Thanks again for the explantion and answers!

 
I am definitely going to look for that nioxin tomorrow!  it sounds pretty cool.

i always hated pantene shampoo, now i know the reason.. why in the world do they put wax in it? what other shampoos are like that?  I'm not a fan of the lower end hair products myself, 

with this i think you do get what you pay for in most cases.

 
hummm split end could be a number of things also how you get it cut.

If you are a bleacher like me a few things do help.

Rusk Smoothing Keriten (spelling?) shampoo and conditioner.

Rusk Calm Treatment ( spray bottle with a solution that looks like urine) In the sensory line

Also sounds odd but get what is called colesteral (spelling?) from your stylist or sally's and sleep with a glob of it on your hair overnight. IT HELPS A LOT!

I went from Box color black once (BOX IS VERY BAD FOR YOUR HAIR!) Level one (Black) to blonde. My hair was like a gummy bear! I used all of these and it is great now!

Pumpkincat-

Yeah Nioxin is great but you have have have to keep with it. It is not a overnight thing. It takes a while to kick in. People get frusterated and quit. My brother is proof it works he is 28 and going bald and he uses it and has new hair growth now.

The reason they use wax is that it is cheap and provides shine and silkyness. I don't know off hand what others have wax. I do know one of the Rusk shampoos does have it though. You just have to look for it on the bottel. I think it may be labeled as parafin? not sure so don't quote me.

 
How can I stop my hair from thinning?   On top, male +40...  I'ved tried Rogain on and off and DNT blockers on and off....   not really getting any results

 
One word.

Nioxin.

You have to use it for a while and cant give up. It does take a bit to kick in like I said.

Rogain is junk.

 
Originally Posted by TattooGoddess /img/forum/go_quote.gifI dont know what kinda of water you have but my city has horrible hard water so I get what is called a Malibu Treatment.
Just a side note, I've seen filters for shower heads before to help get "cleaner" water when you shower.  It might help.

 
I dyed my hair a few weeks ago (dark reddish brown) and I know in another thread we're having a convo about prof dye jobs and OTC/beauty supply store stuff but this is totally unrelated so I thought I'd just ask you here
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Anyways, I love my color, and don't plan on dying my hair again until June or July. I've had my hair red for about a year now and I think next time I'd like a bit of a change up.. I was thinking about dying my hair black, but more of a super dark brown. The only reason I'm fearful about doing this is because I have fairly light skin, MAC wise I'm about an NW20, and I have quite dark brown eyebrows and dark brown eyes.. If I had blue, green or even hazel eyes I'd have done this color before but since my eyes are brown I'm kinda sacred I'm going to look freakishly pale.. What do you think?

 
I am super pale also, and I have dark (almost black hair) and dark brows. Hazel eyes. I get more compliments with my dark hair than I used to when I highlighted it with a caramel color.
 

Originally Posted by BombDiggity /img/forum/go_quote.gif

I dyed my hair a few weeks ago (dark reddish brown) and I know in another thread we're having a convo about prof dye jobs and OTC/beauty supply store stuff but this is totally unrelated so I thought I'd just ask you here
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Anyways, I love my color, and don't plan on dying my hair again until June or July. I've had my hair red for about a year now and I think next time I'd like a bit of a change up.. I was thinking about dying my hair black, but more of a super dark brown. The only reason I'm fearful about doing this is because I have fairly light skin, MAC wise I'm about an NW20, and I have quite dark brown eyebrows and dark brown eyes.. If I had blue, green or even hazel eyes I'd have done this color before but since my eyes are brown I'm kinda sacred I'm going to look freakishly pale.. What do you think?
Now for my question, I color my hair I need to keep up with the roots about every 6 weeks. I was told to just do the roots and pull the color through at the last 10 minutes to touch it up but not damage the ends. I have a slight wave to my hair but it blow drys straight fairly easily. What I would like to know is what is the best thing to use to keep my colored hair growing long (it is down to my bra line) longest it has been in years I want it a little longer since I have layers and the front does not look as long. I seem to look oily after one day and it looks awful, what shampoo should I be using?I use drugstore shampoo and conditioner, usually Herbal Essence or Dove. The flat top and oilyness is my major concern at this moment.

 
Originally Posted by BombDiggity /img/forum/go_quote.gif

I dyed my hair a few weeks ago (dark reddish brown) and I know in another thread we're having a convo about prof dye jobs and OTC/beauty supply store stuff but this is totally unrelated so I thought I'd just ask you here
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Anyways, I love my color, and don't plan on dying my hair again until June or July. I've had my hair red for about a year now and I think next time I'd like a bit of a change up.. I was thinking about dying my hair black, but more of a super dark brown. The only reason I'm fearful about doing this is because I have fairly light skin, MAC wise I'm about an NW20, and I have quite dark brown eyebrows and dark brown eyes.. If I had blue, green or even hazel eyes I'd have done this color before but since my eyes are brown I'm kinda sacred I'm going to look freakishly pale.. What do you think?

Have to say this first... big pet peeve of mine haha. It is coloring your hair. You Dye shirts and easter eggs, you color hair :p /emoticons/[email protected] 2x" width="20" height="20" /> ha ha

hummm Thats a tough one BombDiggity. If you had a cool skin tone I would say go for it but put some low lights and highlights in it. I am a NC15 (Can we say the female version of Powder? lol) and I have green/hazel eyes. I am sweedish. When I had full on black hair I looked even more pale then I do now (I have a dark brown with a blonde peice on the top ( Radial sun highlights in chunks)

I think some people can pull if off and others can't. It deppends on a few things

What is your clothing style both for work and outside of work?

How long is your hair? (sometimes if you hav long hair it can tend to look greasy with dark colors after the end of a day)

Are you set on just going one set color? No low lights or highlights?

Have you gone to a wig shop and tried on various wigs to see if it would be a good color for you?

Prime example. I have a bright redish wig ( same color and cut as kat von d) One of the teachers at the school wears wigs as well. I told her she should try it on. She said no way she would look like a cartoon char. and her skin would not look right with is. Well I convinced her to put it on and it looked really good on her!

So I say before taking the plunge... do three things. Let me know about the questions I asked and see if you can find a wig shop in your area that has a color close to or is the color you want and see what you think. Check in the photoshop forum here and ask some one here to change the hue of your hair for you in PS. I would do it but Im super busy the next 2 weeks. It is very easy to do.

The upside. Hair 95% of the time can be fixed if you dont like it.... well 100% but sometimes people fry there hair and it is a pain in the you know what to repair. :) /emoticons/[email protected] 2x" width="20" height="20" />
 

Here is compairesion. ( some has to do with lighting)

Very pale



More red tones in my face



More warm tones brought to my face



 
Originally Posted by Bexy /img/forum/go_quote.gif

Now for my question, I color my hair I need to keep up with the roots about every 6 weeks. I was told to just do the roots and pull the color through at the last 10 minutes to touch it up but not damage the ends. I have a slight wave to my hair but it blow drys straight fairly easily. What I would like to know is what is the best thing to use to keep my colored hair growing long (it is down to my bra line) longest it has been in years I want it a little longer since I have layers and the front does not look as long. I seem to look oily after one day and it looks awful, what shampoo should I be using?I use drugstore shampoo and conditioner, usually Herbal Essence or Dove. The flat top and oilyness is my major concern at this moment.
What is your natural color/underlying pigment?

Best thing to keep your hair growing? Well first off plenty of water and a blanced diet will help emensly. Also if you dont take a daily vitimin I would start. Not only good for you but great for your hair,skin and nails.  Prenatials are really good for this. Also the pill called hair skin and nails is another great one. When your body is not getting what it needs on the inside.. It shows on the outside.

Im assuming from your post your hair is colored a darkbrown? I would like to know first what the underlying pigments is before I recomend a shampoo and conditioner as I need to know how much damage and pigments are in your hair.

Also do you do it your self or go to a salon?

Oil issues- Start on a proff product. This will help. These are PH balanced and will cut down on the oil production. Oil productions is caused by three main things- Hormones,Food and your hair being dried out. Ok have you ever noticed when you start on a new face routine how if you face gets dried out it gets way more oily to counter act the loss of oil? It speeds up the prosses to compinsate. Then you just looking like a giant greasy cheesball. (I get this alot in the winter)

About after a week of me switching to proff product when I started cosmo school I started to see less oil in my hair. I was the type like you that it would look greasy with in the end of the day and a hot mess the next morning. I also started using more hair spray in my hair. Hairspray has alchol. This drys out the hair or heck anything for that matter. The caused the oil to dry up. So a little trick for you. Spray your hair with hair spray up side down before going to bed or in the morning. Brush it through a bit. It will get rid of a good part of the oil. Another thing. Get dry shampoo. T.I.G.I makes a great one. It is in there like rock star line or something like that. Im not sure the name off the top of my head. I have heard wonderfull things about it.

So yeah let me know about the questions I asked and I can give you some good ideas on Shampoos and Conditioners to help you out a bit with the color,oil and limpness.

 
My natural color is a dark brown maybe a shade or so lighter than I am now. That shade being darkest brown. I have been using drugstore color, but I am going to go back to salon formula (something from sallys) because they seem to make my hair feel so much better. I had a recent experience (about 6 months ago) where my friend that finished beauty school but did not have her license yet highlighted my hair with a lot of chunky highlights. My hair has had a lot of fallout and breakage since the highlight. It is (just over the last few weeks) starting to get some baby hairs around the crown so I know it is growing back. I was so concerned about the hair loss that I went to the Dr to see if it was my thyroid. It was not, all though I know stress can cause hair loss and I know I have had a ton of that ( I lost both of my parents in the past 2 years my mom just in the past 6 months).

Anyway I think I answered the questions that you needed. Oh the reason I color is to cover my gray roots. I do take vitamins, just regular vitamins and I know I need to drink more water. I will start to do that. When you recommend some shampoo and conditioner, can you think of something that is the least pricey please. I am a stay at home mom and do not have a ton of extra money for hair products. I will try the hairspray trick as well. Thanks. so much. PS is it true that the cheapest salon shampoo and conditioner is better than the more expensive drugstore stuff? I read that somewhere before.

Love your tattoo, the one on your chest. I love tattoos they are very addictive.

 
Originally Posted by Bexy /img/forum/go_quote.gif

My natural color is a dark brown maybe a shade or so lighter than I am now. That shade being darkest brown. I have been using drugstore color, but I am going to go back to salon formula (something from sallys) because they seem to make my hair feel so much better. I had a recent experience (about 6 months ago) where my friend that finished beauty school but did not have her license yet highlighted my hair with a lot of chunky highlights. My hair has had a lot of fallout and breakage since the highlight. It is (just over the last few weeks) starting to get some baby hairs around the crown so I know it is growing back. I was so concerned about the hair loss that I went to the Dr to see if it was my thyroid. It was not, all though I know stress can cause hair loss and I know I have had a ton of that ( I lost both of my parents in the past 2 years my mom just in the past 6 months).

Anyway I think I answered the questions that you needed. Oh the reason I color is to cover my gray roots. I do take vitamins, just regular vitamins and I know I need to drink more water. I will start to do that. When you recommend some shampoo and conditioner, can you think of something that is the least pricey please. I am a stay at home mom and do not have a ton of extra money for hair products. I will try the hairspray trick as well. Thanks. so much. PS is it true that the cheapest salon shampoo and conditioner is better than the more expensive drugstore stuff? I read that somewhere before.

Love your tattoo, the one on your chest. I love tattoos they are very addictive.
Ok so you don't have a super light underlying pigments thats a good start when maintaining your hair color. if you MUST go to sallys for color ( it is better then over the counter box) I would Get Wella Color Charm. I have used wella for the past few years and it seems to be a very good line. ( I use the salon line, Wella Color Charm is a VERY old Salon line)

Is your hair still gummy bear from the highlights? I am assuming at one point it was if you had breakage on Virgin Hair ( Part color has not touched) If it is are you on anytype of repair treatment?

Hair loss. This can be a number of things. I have Thyroid issues my self and am lucky to not have hairloss. There are many types of Alopecia and reasons for its loss


So back to your original question. Shampoo and Conditioner. The best line I have used would be Wella's Color Preserve. I think it smells really good to. Sebastian is also coming out with a new color line soon but Sebastian is spendy. 

I am going to give you something to sit on for a bit. Shampoo and Conditioner you get from like Wal Mart and Target and so on are mostly water. They are also not PH balanced. Because of this you have to use more to get a good effect if any from them. So really you are buying scented water with dish soap and wax in it. Because you have to use more you have to buy more this more money.

Take a bottel of Dove. It's like $6 a bottle? It last say about a month? Now take a bottle of proffesional Product it will last 2 months or more and Cost $12-$14. Why? You have to use way less because of the washing agents and foaming agents to get the hair cleaned. It is a far more consintrated product. Just like makeup. Cheep make up ( most of the time) will have a bad color payout but when you buy say MAC or Makeup Forever you have to use far less because they are pigmented and last you longer then the $5 Covergirl eye shaddow. Make sense?

Also one quick note. DO NOT buy proffesional products from wal mart, target ect. These are NOT the real thing. I will be writing a article about this later in the month for the makeuptalk blog.

Any who I hope this helps you out a bit more.Let me know if you have any other questions!

 
Congratulations as well.

I have a two part question regarding humidity.

I live in southwestern Ontario - it is incredibly humid and uncomfortable from June to September.

I have wavy/curly/frizzy hair - the humidity makes my frizziness worse.

A) Do I want to use styling products that attracts moisture or one that repels moisture?

B) Wouldn't using a product that attracts moisture, only make frizz worse?

 
Thanks for the explanations on fine hair, it's such a pain to manage !

I want to add my 2 cents and i totally agree about switching products from time to time, as much as i love the results from Kerastase, at some point i noticed more buildup than volume, so i stopped using it. I use a neutral shampoo (french brand called Bioderma), a clarifying shampoo (Essensity by Schwarzkopf) and Shiseido Tsubaki shampoo. This one is more suitable for thick and dry hair with all the oil inside but it's so nourishing i use it once a week as a treatment shampoo for my dry lengths.

Katana : you can try Soap&Glory's super daily shampoo, i admit i was doubtful about this shampoo but it works and two thumbs up for the volume i get !

I also have a question : do you have a quick solution to bring more volume to hair? I work in a restaurant, so i have to tie my hair (i either twist it and clip it at the nape of the neck, ponytail or dutch braid it), and after several hours of work i lost most of my volume. The clip solution has proven to be the less damaging but still, i get what i call the curtain effect. I have hair reaching the middle of my shoulder blades, so the difference is really noticeable between good looking lengths and greasy roots.

I tried a volumising spray (also by Kerastase) but all it does honestly is add more buildup on roots that already appear saturated with excess oil. Sometimes i also tease my hair with my travel comb.

 

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