Glossybox - June 2013

[JC327]

Originally Posted by CheshireCookie /img/forum/go_quote.gif
From the CEO and Founder of Bondi -

but before you read this, I'd just like to point something out that should be clearly stated and appreciated...that he PERSONALLY went out of his way to clarify this matter and uphold the name of his company. How often do you see a company (or a company's CEO for that matter) do that? This speaks highly of him, of what he stands for (both personally and on a business standpoint) and of what he wants Bondi to be all about. Now I don't know about you, but I am now even more disappointed that Bondi's polishes won't be included in this collab. So it does seem that the issue here was just a business snafu (albeit on Dallas Shaw's side, or her attorney I suppose you could say!).

Enjoy the read and be in AWE of the rare quality called Honesty LOL

Hi there,

I thought I'd jump in on this post to clarify a few points as between some blog posts and conversations on Makeuptalk.com there seems to be confusion on what was actually said.

Bondi New York has been involved with this collaboration since March of this year. The original concept was to provide Glossy Box subscribers with a polish from our existing Spring/Summer 2013 collection.

This idea then evolved into Dallas Shaw curating a collection of six colors. It has always been our intention to make the collection available for purchase for customers who do not subscribe to Glossy Box and also to those Glossy Box subscribers that may wish to complete their collection.

Unfortunately, on Friday we received communication from Ms Shaws attorney informing us that we are not permitted to sell the polish.

This twist coupled with other difficulties that occurred through the collaboration lead me to withdrawing from this months box.

My team and I realize this is a serious disappointment for many and it is not a decision we took lightly. As a start up company we could not allow a $50,000 investment go out the door when terms were being changed at such a late stage.

I stand by my statement in which I feel Glossy Box is a great company and from time to time difficulties come up in business which cause situations like this. The comments made in a string on Facebook were thanking the blogger for raising awareness of the difficulties surrounding this partnership. As the blogger has gone on to clarify, the comments relating to Glossy Box were her own and relate to her experiences with the business.

I hope this helps to clarify what has occurred and I trust that Glossy Box will make its subscribers aware at some point this week.

My team and I are available via the Live Chat on our website, our email, Facebook fan page and Twitter to answer any questions or concerns.

Thanks

Richard

I appreciate the clarification and the personal attention given by the CEO. I look forward to trying Bondi products in the future.

 

[CheshireCookie]

Originally Posted by FormosaHoney /img/forum/go_quote.gif


Thanks for posting this, I do have a bit of admiration to Richard for pulling out and sticking to his guns.  

I had an idea that in most cases the samples were supplied to the beauty subs free of charge but hand't realized how big a budget that entails.  $50,000 is not a small number for a start-up, often the founders will not pay themselves for the first couple of years and that amount is 6 months of salary for someone at the calibre of starting up a company.

That's what Boni was investing the $50,000 in inventory, but not to mention the behind the hours time it took to forumlate and come up with the colors for Shae to pick or curate.  I'd call that investment at $50,000+ to bring awareness to his brand to his consumers.

For Miss Shaw, she might be a brilliant graphic design artist but I would tend to think the the time she put in on this project might not have translated to $50,000+.  Just speculations...  I'd sure like to hear something from Miss. Shaw on her social media, as I'm sure she had very good reasons from her position as well.

I'd like to hear from her as well....we've heard from Bondi, we've even heard (from a small short email, but heard nonetheless lol) from Glossybox...but not a peep from Dallas Shaw, am I right? Everyone must have their reasons, but I'd think it'd just be good sense to explain.

 

[evildrporkchop]

Originally Posted by CheshireCookie /img/forum/go_quote.gif


I'd like to hear from her as well....we've heard from Bondi, we've even heard (from a small short email, but heard nonetheless lol) from Glossybox...but not a peep from Dallas Shaw, am I right? Everyone must have their reasons, but I'd think it'd just be good sense to explain.

I agree. Right now, she's not looking too good in all of this. Last minute changes per her directions that will now further delay shipping of a box she agreed to collaborate on? Not professional...

 

[ewiggy]

Really disappointed in not receiving a Bondi polish. That's the only reason I stayed subbed this month. :/

 

[SnowLeopard]

I just want the polish and my box to arrive during the same month I'm billed, I could care less about Dallas shaw.

 

[Starlet]

This is making it a little easier to cancel. I am really kind of sad of what has been happening with the box. I remember how excited I was to get this box when it first came out, but it just isn't as fun anymore. They do have some nice products pop up, but the more I think about the fact that the cost of the box will usually almost buy me whatever full size item it comes with I think I can walk away this month and just sign back up if the spoilers seem to make the box seem worth it.

 

[FormosaHoney]

Originally Posted by SnowLeopard /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I just want the polish and my box to arrive during the same month I'm billed, I could care less about Dallas shaw.

I sorta agree, it seems a pity that a product got canceled by a 'sponsor' over a 'theme talent's' legal demands.  

Specifically because this isn't a sub to introduce art work.  Which I've seen too, you can sub to receive 5 to 6 pieces of work made by artists, little boxes, cards, plaques and labels.

 

 

 

[Shauna999]

I'm with ya' all- I care about bondi & GB- I'm over Dallas shaw at this point. I feel bad for Bondi & I'm going to support them & purchase their products

 

[annifer]

I just want the polish and my box to arrive during the same month I'm billed, I could care less about Dallas shaw.

I don't care about her either. Before this, I didn't even know who she was.

 

[DragonChick]

Originally Posted by ewiggy /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Really disappointed in not receiving a Bondi polish. That's the only reason I stayed subbed this month. :/

Same here. Definitely pulling the plug after I get enough points for a free box (sooo close here).

I respect Bondi's decision to pull out of the collab and I'll have to buy some polish from them in the future.

 

[MoiSurtout]

I'd never heard of Dallas Shaw before, and now I wish I never had. I still look forward to getting the pretty box though. 

I hope Bondi does some sort of discount on the collection when it's released; some of the colours are really pretty, and I'd still like to try them. 

 

[FormosaHoney]

I don't mean to misalign Ms. Shaw, I just thought it was a pity and things seem to have spun out of intent.  

I imagine as another poster had mentioned, Ms Shaw's design was probably on the Bondi collection promised to GB and she likely (this is all hypothetical) asked for royalty for the nail polish that might be sold from her 'curation' but was turned down by Bondi or the % agreement could not be reached so her lawyer shot from the hips.  

 

[mhammill]

Perhaps they could not reach a mutually beneficial agreement and those things happen, but Glossybox should NEVER have agreed to this collaboration between Ms Shaw and Bondi New York much less announced it BEFORE those agreements were hammered out.  This is still in my opinion squarely in the lap of Glossybox's team.  These details should have been ironed out before this box was announced.  God forbid soimeone actually thinks ahead.

 

[FormosaHoney]

Originally Posted by mhammill /img/forum/go_quote.gif

Perhaps they could not reach a mutually beneficial agreement and those things happen, but Glossybox should NEVER have agreed to this collaboration between Ms Shaw and Bondi New York much less announced it BEFORE those agreements were hammered out.  This is still in my opinion squarely in the lap of Glossybox's team.  These details should have been ironed out before this box was announced.  God forbid soimeone actually thinks ahead.

I agree, this is GB's project.  

I don't know if GB was invovlved or in the know for the final rounds of the Shaw-Bondi communiqe, but GB needs to put in some disclosure in the future that all communications betwen invovlved parties in a collaboration needs to be transparent and changes in the agreement needs to be 'signed-off' by GB before it is dispatched to the other party, because it directly effects GB's deliverables.

In this case, no Bondi will be delivered...   

 

 

 

 

 

 

[latinafeminista]

Originally Posted by mhammill /img/forum/go_quote.gif

Perhaps they could not reach a mutually beneficial agreement and those things happen, but Glossybox should NEVER have agreed to this collaboration between Ms Shaw and Bondi New York much less announced it BEFORE those agreements were hammered out.  This is still in my opinion squarely in the lap of Glossybox's team.  These details should have been ironed out before this box was announced.  God forbid soimeone actually thinks ahead.

 

[CheshireCookie]

I don't mean to misalign Ms. Shaw, I just thought it was a pity and things seem to have spun out of intent.   I imagine as another poster had mentioned, Ms Shaw's design was probably on the Bondi collection promised to GB and she likely (this is all hypothetical) asked for royalty for the nail polish that might be sold from her 'curation' but was turned down by Bondi or the % agreement could not be reached so her lawyer shot from the hips.  

From what I gather, it was a done deal then Shaw's attorney recently changed their stance and informed Bondi that they would not be allowed to sell the picked polishes on their website. That along with a logistics/shipping issue between Bondi and Glossybox. According to Bondi, Glossybox was being difficult in regards to the time/day for Bondi's shipment and refused to come to an agreement...which makes me laugh cause um...isn't Glossybox the box that is NEVER on time?! lol

 

[smiletorismile]

Originally Posted by CheshireCookie /img/forum/go_quote.gif
From the CEO and Founder of Bondi -

but before you read this, I'd just like to point something out that should be clearly stated and appreciated...that he PERSONALLY went out of his way to clarify this matter and uphold the name of his company. How often do you see a company (or a company's CEO for that matter) do that? This speaks highly of him, of what he stands for (both personally and on a business standpoint) and of what he wants Bondi to be all about. Now I don't know about you, but I am now even more disappointed that Bondi's polishes won't be included in this collab. So it does seem that the issue here was just a business snafu (albeit on Dallas Shaw's side, or her attorney I suppose you could say!).

Enjoy the read and be in AWE of the rare quality called Honesty LOL

Hi there,

I thought I'd jump in on this post to clarify a few points as between some blog posts and conversations on Makeuptalk.com there seems to be confusion on what was actually said.

Bondi New York has been involved with this collaboration since March of this year. The original concept was to provide Glossy Box subscribers with a polish from our existing Spring/Summer 2013 collection.

This idea then evolved into Dallas Shaw curating a collection of six colors. It has always been our intention to make the collection available for purchase for customers who do not subscribe to Glossy Box and also to those Glossy Box subscribers that may wish to complete their collection.

Unfortunately, on Friday we received communication from Ms Shaws attorney informing us that we are not permitted to sell the polish.

This twist coupled with other difficulties that occurred through the collaboration lead me to withdrawing from this months box.

My team and I realize this is a serious disappointment for many and it is not a decision we took lightly. As a start up company we could not allow a $50,000 investment go out the door when terms were being changed at such a late stage.

I stand by my statement in which I feel Glossy Box is a great company and from time to time difficulties come up in business which cause situations like this. The comments made in a string on Facebook were thanking the blogger for raising awareness of the difficulties surrounding this partnership. As the blogger has gone on to clarify, the comments relating to Glossy Box were her own and relate to her experiences with the business.

I hope this helps to clarify what has occurred and I trust that Glossy Box will make its subscribers aware at some point this week.

My team and I are available via the Live Chat on our website, our email, Facebook fan page and Twitter to answer any questions or concerns.

Thanks

Richard

Thanks for posting this! I think this is the most clarified reason.

 

[smiletorismile]

Originally Posted by Shauna999 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I'm with ya' all- I care about bondi & GB- I'm over Dallas shaw at this point. I feel bad for Bondi & I'm going to support them & purchase their products

I agree. I didn't even know who she was and now there is a lot of drama going on with her box, not a good first impression. I can't wait to buy a bondi polish. They did look pretty

 

[melawnduh]

It looks like they kept the same teaser pic while deleting other teasers of the Bondi polish... seems like they're committed to still sending out a polish, right? I'm kinda irritated (with Dallas Shaw, not with GB or Bondi) as I was really looking forward to these polish colors and subbed for an extra box this month in large part because of the Bondi polish... bummer.

 

[jilla1020]

I agree, this is GB's project.   I don't know if GB was invovlved or in the know for the final rounds of the Shaw-Bondi communiqe, but GB needs to put in some disclosure in the future that all communications betwen invovlved parties in a collaboration needs to be transparent and changes in the agreement needs to be 'signed-off' by GB before it is dispatched to the other party, because it directly effects GB's deliverables. In this case, no Bondi will be delivered...   :inwc:

 

 

 

 

 

Omg the little smiley going down the toilet is hilarious! Haha!!!!