Question Regarding Terms of Service between Community and MUT STAFF? Is It The Same?

[DonnaJ]

Originally Posted by Pancua /img/forum/go_quote.gif


I'm not ignoring anything. The whole way this has been handled has been poor and this isn't making it any better. And I didn't move the post so I can't do anything about that so please don't place that blame on my feet, thankyouverymuch.

It's not about blame. I'm asking you or any mod to move it back.

Pancua, what is wrong with you? It seems to me that you are being judgemental, sarcastic, and even mean. Sure everyone has opinions, but I thought that mods and administration would handle things more professionally instead of jumping in and acting poorly themselves! Why are you trying to make things worse instead of better?

 

[Pancua]

Originally Posted by DonnaJ /img/forum/go_quote.gif

It's not about blame. I'm asking you or any mod to move it back.

Pancua, what is wrong with you? It seems to me that you are being judgemental, sarcastic, and even mean. Sure everyone has opinions, but I thought that mods and administration would handle things more professionally instead of jumping in and acting poorly themselves! Why are you trying to make things worse instead of better?

I'd like to point out that I stated an opinion, you came at me. I could very well be asking you the same question. 

Perhaps you are reading too much in my posts, perhaps I am reading too much into yours but I don't believe I've done anything outside the realm of anyone else here who has stated how they feel with this whole mess.

I'm editing this post to add this: This is the last post I will give on this subject. I've communicated how I feel both here and to the Mods.

 

[MissLindaJean]

I think there are good points coming from all sides. The specific comment made was inflammatory and tactless; I personally didn't like it and I am blessed to be half Korean. Poorly stated and whether done unintentionally or on purpose, it doesn't seem that any mod or even member addressed the boundaries it crossed. I'm curious why the thread went dead for a year before another comment or calling out was done. Simply, a quick apology and backpedaling probably could have diffused it. Maybe the fact that the community as a whole seems to have let some issues slide is adding to the dilemma. If you meant to imply no resolution was appeasing because the thread was closed, that's valid divadoll. Closing and deleting it without followup from all concerned looked suspicious, initially. But given the date of the comments origination, people had plenty of time to sound off and didn't. Can't speak for Tony, but given the postings you made on another site, he did address it. Just not to your satisfaction. I'm not disagreeing on the poll, because I already commented that when I realized, thanks to yourself and others, it appeared to be a violation. I did follow up by locking the thread. Given people' concerns about hiding stuff, it wasn't deleted..at least not to my knowledge. Do you feel like I or any other mod is not fulfilling the role? I'm happy to be criticized, because I'm not intentionally working towards failure. You were a mod yourself, you could have stayed and helped implement whatever changes or resolutions you're seeking from within. But given your dissatisfaction with certain aspects, sometimes one needs to walk away and have a break. I can only say that there are 3 sides to a story..the two parties involved and the truth. There is undoubtedly truthful aspects from all, but also personal biases coloring thoughts/opinions. I don't want to come across as favoring any one person, so I apologize if I'm not communicating clear enough to demonstrate that. I am aware that there is discontent, as members have privately messaged me to express their own misgivings. The discontent encompasses many topics and members, but this has specific situation has come up. I don't expect rainbows and glitter farts every time I log on, but do expect all of us, myself first and foremost, to be respectful of each other, whether our views leave us nodding in agreement or not. Most of us are adults and know how to comport ourselves. Maybe there are times where we can all benefit from editing, I know that's applicable to me at times and probably evident in this thread.

 

[Geek2]

Hello.  The MuT administration feels that this thread has gone down a path that is no longer conducive to our community health. I can definitely see everyone's points, opinions, and conclusions. One thing I wanted to bring up first is that no staff is above our Terms of Service(Rules/Regulations…as they used to be called). I can't speak for Zadidoll about the Birchbox poll but I can see why one MAY be opened since there has been a lot of discussion about Birchbox on MUT and some people are finding that they aren't very happy about it while others absolutely love their service. There is always going to be people that like/love something while others don't. I would ask everyone involved in this thread(and that are on MUT) to please be respectful to one another even if you don't like the person, their opinions, or their feelings. I know first-hand as a woman that we can get very defensive and offensive on issues especially if we feel or believe that we are being personally attacked or the subject is against our beliefs. We don't typically close threads on MUT because we encourage the honest and open discussions about our topics(such as make up, beauty, etc.), but in this thread, I don't see what the benefit is to let this issue go on and on and on. This thread is definitely not helping the members of MUT. MUT is for everyone to openly discuss about the subjects being offered here.  This really isn't the place to discuss personal dislikes about other people or their opinions. Arguing about it, is not going to get us anywhere. It's the same as arguing about politics or religion. Nobody is ever going to win those arguments but there is much to say. There are as many opinions about issues as there are of people. People have their personal opinions and always will. Sometimes they are better left unsaid. Mom always said to me, if you don't have something nice to say, keep it to yourself.  Online it's so much easier to type hurtful things about others when there is no accountability face to face. When it comes to women, which the majority of MUT members, you may find that it may be difficult to get along sometimes but we just need to and do it or maybe move on to something else. Just like at any workplace, there are always other women you like and don't like but most of the time, people don't go and single each other out face to face. You try and get along. I've managed many women in my business careers life and have witnessed the attacks first hand which are not good for anyone. Nobody is perfect and we all make mistakes whether it's saying something we didn't mean to or do, something we didn't think through or didn't mean to do. It shouldn't be the end of the world though. We are all trying to do our best I'm sure whether it's in our personal lives or online. We appreciate all of our members and staff here at MUT and have seen a tremendous growth in the community in the past 2-3 years. Thank you everyone for being part of this great beauty community.  MuT thanks you for everything you share here for all other member's benefit. MUT was founded on the idea of women being able to talk about makeup, beauty, skin care and then we expanded to other areas as well. It nice to be able to talk about general chit chat, current events, parenting, etc. in a drama free zone. We realize a drama free zone is a perfect world in which none of us live in, but we'd really like to keep MUT as drama free as possible. We really encourage everyone to participate in discussions and sharing feedback on all subjects offered here that also include beauty and makeup products that work and don't work.  We also encourage discussions on other topics without making anybody feel like they are going to be attacked, singled out, or that people are going to take sides.  The end result in that will  be that all we have is this side against that side and who wins that? We are not in high school (even though some of our members might be still in high school - no pun intended). we all know how we are supposed to act and conduct ourselves in the real world. The high school type mentality about girls fighting against each other really doesn't help anyone and especially our members here on MUT who come here seeking advice, information and an overall general nice community to discuss their beauty interests. This thread is now going to be closed (and possibly also removed by administration) for the reasons I stated above as well as other threads similar that the administration might find inappropriate.

Thank You