The Posh Pod discussion

[NutMeg19]

Originally Posted by zadidoll /img/forum/go_quote.gif



Gina/Silver is now making false claims against me to which Sheryl (Superfreaky1RU) stated that according to Gina/Silver I had emailed Posh Pod for a free box. Never happened. My only communication with Gina/Silver was on Facebook - which was later deleted. I did post what I wrote on page 1 so here's what I had wrote on the Posh Pod wall.

And their reply:

• The Posh Pod Thank you very much for your comments and suggestions. Being a member of Posh Pod is all about the Pods, reviewing of products and being able to receive quality high-end product & giving! Some history on Posh Pod's founders may help to explain why Posh Pod came to be. The owner of Posh Pod is a cancer patient. During her battle the first time around she realized how important it was to use high quality products to avoid additional drying, or burning of the skin & hair worse then it already was from the chemotherapy & radiation treatments. With the chemicals and medications making nails brittle and weak and of coarse finding accessories such as false eyelashes and scarfs that would assist with the additional hair loss and sores that happen during these very invasive treatments. She began by searching and locating things that would help herself and then started to assist others within her group of support. Now, it is a passion and we have born from this Posh Pod. Everyone will now benefit from these products no matter what they are in need of. Regardless the charity aspect of this is still in effect and is needed on a much larger scale. My point is that the Pod is the membership in reality. In the situation you have laid out here, "GGG" has stopped providing the membership benefits. That is like paying country club dues without a country club! This would be upsetting to say the least and warrant investigation. Posh Pod follows a strict and set time frame each month for shipment of products that will not change. If indeed a situation were to occur were an error was made in shipment or inventory the membership fee for that month would be refunded unless some other satisfactory compensation was agreed upon personally with the member. The purpose of my post is not to argue with our policy or your suggestion, as I understand and think both have valid considerations. Rather, this post is to assure those that view this page that unlike many sample box subscriptions you may have tried or seen in the past our purpose is to serve the members of the Posh Pod. To provide a quality line from high end product to consumer no matter what the income bracket is. It is not to sell full size product of the designer's. It is not to advertise or pump up any particular line of product. We are here for one reason and one reason only, for the members. Thank you for your wonderful post "Zadidoll" and thank you to those that took the time to read both of these very important posts. The new blog on Posh Pod will soon show a full story on Posh Pod including the new 501C3 that is following in it's footsteps. It is wonderful to be able to provide a unique service to an industry that has taken a bit of a beating it seems. We may have a home made touch, but that speaks of our heart in this also and I can assure you what is in our Pods is all "POSH"!
  

Here's the link to it but again the post has since been deleted. https://www.facebook.com/PoshPod/posts/261259443961241?ref=notif&notif_t=feed_comment

Sheryl is so mislead by Gina/Silver but here at the facts that can be verified.

1. Posh Pod had an image of a Chanel palette that was counterfeit. The applicators in the image did not have the Chanel logo embossed on the handles as it is embossed on other Chanel palettes. The palette itself was not the same as other Chanel palettes in how it looked.
2. Posh Pod had images from Glossybox in her gallery and claimed that the items in those boxes were what she was sending out.
3. Posh Pod had written on their site they're working with brands implying she has a working relationship with companies like Chanel and Victoria Secret - when those companies were asked, basically the reply was they don't work with other companies such as beauty box subscriptions. Chanel has forwarded the image from Posh Pod's FB to their legal department as far as I know.
4. Posh Pod has claimed that designers do not want images of their products online in fear of those items counterfeit.
5. Posh Pod has sent out an email to at least a half dozen (or more) containing the personal information of at least two members.
6. Posh Pod's EBay account has been discovered, the comments left for Posh Pod on her profile shows that numerous items from the April Pod were bought on EBay and not obtained from the company as Gina/Silver has claimed on Facebook. http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=foxymommas1&ftab=AllFeedback&myworld=true

I could go on and on. Suffice it to say I'm annoyed that Sheryl has passed on a false claim from Gina/Silver without asking.

Bottom line is this. Posh Pod is not worth $30 since the products are off EBay. I would suggest Glossybox, Birchbox, Beauty Army or Beauty Fix.


Wow.  Just WOW.  Just when this whole thing couldn't get more dramatic.  That video was interesting, especially the part about talking to Silver on the phone and Gina was there, so they are in fact two different people.  Hmmm...I personally do not believe that. The entire video is strange.  A lot of sticking up for Posh Pod when there is clearly something very shady and "off" about this company.  And vlogging the false claims from Gina/Silver seems really crazy and was certainly a poor choice.  Who would believe that??  

 

[NutMeg19]

Originally Posted by Playedinloops /img/forum/go_quote.gif

It sounds like she is trying to make it sound like we are jealous of her? lol. Lurkers are one thing but lurkers who proceed to talk about it in vlogs freak me out a little...

I still can't believe people think that bag is real victoria's secret.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VICTORIAS-SECRET-SPEEDY-MAKE-UP-FLORAL-STRIPE-CASE-BAG-/140597416209#ht_2180wt_905

Haaahaha...I thought the same about the bag!  It just goes back to taking advantage of less knowledgable ladies out there.

 

[Playedinloops]

Originally Posted by NutMeg19 /img/forum/go_quote.gif



Haaahaha...I thought the same about the bag!  It just goes back to taking advantage of less knowledgable ladies out there.

Especially when 27 of them have been sold, probably all for posh pod's. 

and the seller who sells those sells all these other "victoria's secret" products:

http://stores.ebay.com/Chitwans-Shopping-Paradise/VS-ACCESSORIES-/_i.html?_fsub=637553011

I don't know if any/how many are real, but still.

I haven't crosschecked teh posh fox ebay page yet but....yeah.

 

[Souly]

So is Silver/Gina autistic too? I didn't have the stomach to watch it all.

Sheryl brings creepy lurking to a whole new level. I wonder if this was done on purpose to get us talking about posh again? The May pods are coming up & I bet alot of people canceled.

 

[Playedinloops]

Originally Posted by Souly /img/forum/go_quote.gif

So is Silver/Gina autistic too? I didn't have the stomach to watch it all.

Sheryl brings creepy lurking to a whole new level. I wonder if this was done on purpose to get us talking about posh again? The May pods are coming up & I bet alot of people canceled.

lol you are probably right! She doesn't say anything further about the autistic thing.

 

[nicepenguins]

Sorry for the rant: I have to say in response to this video and some of the other comments that it is completely legitimate to criticize a business owner for making terrible grammar and spelling part of his/her public image. I don't understand the comments about "well, some people don't have access to the same education, or have learning disabilities, so we shouldn't judge them at all based on their writing." Honestly, yes we should if they make that writing their public image and expect to make money from it, and it takes nothing away from the hard work of people with disabilities.

If someone who had a lack of training tried to fix your car and it broke down on the highway, would you shrug it off and take your business back to that person? Would you stop at a car repair place that had a sign dangling by a single bolt and a bunch of exposed wires everywhere? How many times would you return to a person who gave you a bad hair coloring job? Writing is a skill like any other skill--it takes practice and work to become a good writer--and people judge others based on their successful use of writing skills the way they judge them on any other skill. 

I have sympathy for people who do not write well because they are disabled or didn't finish school. I know that it can take people a lot of effort to write their own names. However, I have no sympathy for people in the public eye who lack self awareness and refuse to seek out the help of others in producing a well-written and edited document. I say this as someone whose grandfather had a sixth grade education: he always made sure that my grandmother (or the secretary at the construction company) read through anything he wrote so that it would go out correctly. To do otherwise is careless and disrespectful of your audience. She is trying to get $30/month for subscriptions and doesn't respect her audience enough to ask someone to do $50 worth of proofreading.

Okay, end rant. Back to the "posh."

 

[Playedinloops]

Originally Posted by nicepenguins /img/forum/go_quote.gif

Sorry for the rant: I have to say in response to this video and some of the other comments that it is completely legitimate to criticize a business owner for making terrible grammar and spelling part of his/her public image. I don't understand the comments about "well, some people don't have access to the same education, or have learning disabilities, so we shouldn't judge them at all based on their writing." Honestly, yes we should if they make that writing their public image and expect to make money from it, and it takes nothing away from the hard work of people with disabilities.

I agree with you, it is a business. If you can't do it, and want your business to succeed, you pay someone else to do it! I don't know what it is with people and thinking beauty box are charities or something that we are so lucky they give us their product.

 

[AsianGirl]

Well if I were the owner of Posh Pod, this is what I'd be thinking:

• Things have gotten to a point where a very popular Makeup-focused Internet Forum has basically concluded that my Beauty Samples Subscription is a sham

• They've found out about my eBaying products as a source of the samples

• My Sub Service has been put on most forum members' "Do Not Subscribe" list

• I should probably try something else to renew the tarnished image of my Sub so that new people who search "Posh Pod Review" get something positive instead of MUT's muck-raking

• Let me send out some PR boxes to Vloggers and tell my side of the story to them (how I'm made fun of my spelling & grammar, how they asked me for free boxes and was denied, how my true and touching cancer story was tossed aside, etc) and allow the Vloggers to draw their own conclusions (hopefully so they sway other folks to join my sub)

• Since the internet forum route is best not traveled at this point, I'll spin the eBaying into something similar to "you tell me what you want and I'll go get it for you," so subscribers feel like the monthly samples are 'custom-selected'

• The money has been so good from these beauty box subs that I'm going to push this forward a few more months and hope this internet forum thing just blows over and the positive feedback from Vloggers will convince members into more months of subscriptions.

So maybe this is Phase 2 of the Posh Pod discussions ... forums vs. Vloggers??

 

[yousoldtheworld]

The thing is, with online businesses like this, the only impression we CAN get of them is what they give us.  We can't go in to the Posh Pod and see that they're legit.  If you have bad spelling and grammar, fine.  Have someone check it over for you before you publish it. It is our only impression of you and it DOES make you look unprofessional. End of story.

 

[yousoldtheworld]

And to the Vlogger...if you were so concerned about our comments and you "KNEW THE TRUTH" way before the rest of us...why didn't you post and set us straight? That doesn't make sense.  I'm not buying it.

 

[WarPaint1739]

I just wanted to add that the comments on the forum have been very respectful to people with learning disabilities (in my opinion). I never got the impression that anyone meant to poke fun at others based on education level or potential learning disability. The problem is...you cannot have a service called "Posh Pod" with a crappy website and emails full of spelling errors and get mad when people point it out. On top of that, she threatened people with phony legal mechanisms and posted pictures of other boxes. I'm currently in law school and have been following this forum because of Posh Pod's hilarious misuse of the law. This company is a joke. 

I also want to add that I don't think the products are horrible and I don't fault anyone for liking their bag. But the way that this company has acted is downright unprofessional. This isn't personal. MakeupTalk calls out Birchbox and Myglam when they are wrong. They handle our concerns in a professional way and no one questions their legitimacy. If you don't understand this...then maybe you're not cut out for the business world. 

 

[calexxia]

(This is directed at the vlogger, not at anyone who actually posts here, since she said that she is a lurker)

Give me a bloody break. I do NOT care about your child's issues if they are irrelevant to the topic! Which in this case, THEY ARE. Your son isn't trying to portray himself as a LUXURY BUSINESS OWNER, so there is a world of difference between his Asperger's and the poor representation Posh Pod have given THEMSELVES.

 

[Playedinloops]

Originally Posted by calexxia /img/forum/go_quote.gif

(This is directed at the vlogger, not at anyone who actually posts here, since she said that she is a lurker)

Give me a bloody break. I do NOT care about your child's issues if they are irrelevant to the topic! Which in this case, THEY ARE. Your son isn't trying to portray himself as a LUXURY BUSINESS OWNER, so there is a world of difference between his Asperger's and the poor representation Posh Pod have given THEMSELVES.

Its a lot like bringing up being a cancer survivor to sell your ebay pods. 

 

[kawaiimeows]

Originally Posted by Playedinloops /img/forum/go_quote.gif



Its a lot like bringing up being a cancer survivor to sell your ebay pods. 

This makes me wonder if that vlogger knows the owner(s) of posh pod or is in any way connected. Idk, the whole thing just seems really weird.

 

[nicepenguins]

Also directed at the vlogger: if I were you, I'd never pay a dime for subsequent posh pods and would spend that $30 getting a product from Nars that you genuinely love. You might feel better knowing that Nars was actually getting the money from the purchase.

I wonder what happened to the second vlogger who got a free pod...

 

[Souly]

Originally Posted by kawaiimeows /img/forum/go_quote.gif



This makes me wonder if that vlogger knows the owner(s) of posh pod or is in any way connected. Idk, the whole thing just seems really weird.

I'm thinking the same thing.

 

[Superfreaky1ru]

Originally Posted by zadidoll /img/forum/go_quote.gif



Gina/Silver is now making false claims against me to which Sheryl (Superfreaky1RU) stated that according to Gina/Silver I had emailed Posh Pod for a free box. Never happened. My only communication with Gina/Silver was on Facebook - which was later deleted. I did post what I wrote on page 1 so here's what I had wrote on the Posh Pod wall.

And their reply:

• The Posh Pod Thank you very much for your comments and suggestions. Being a member of Posh Pod is all about the Pods, reviewing of products and being able to receive quality high-end product & giving! Some history on Posh Pod's founders may help to explain why Posh Pod came to be. The owner of Posh Pod is a cancer patient. During her battle the first time around she realized how important it was to use high quality products to avoid additional drying, or burning of the skin & hair worse then it already was from the chemotherapy & radiation treatments. With the chemicals and medications making nails brittle and weak and of coarse finding accessories such as false eyelashes and scarfs that would assist with the additional hair loss and sores that happen during these very invasive treatments. She began by searching and locating things that would help herself and then started to assist others within her group of support. Now, it is a passion and we have born from this Posh Pod. Everyone will now benefit from these products no matter what they are in need of. Regardless the charity aspect of this is still in effect and is needed on a much larger scale. My point is that the Pod is the membership in reality. In the situation you have laid out here, "GGG" has stopped providing the membership benefits. That is like paying country club dues without a country club! This would be upsetting to say the least and warrant investigation. Posh Pod follows a strict and set time frame each month for shipment of products that will not change. If indeed a situation were to occur were an error was made in shipment or inventory the membership fee for that month would be refunded unless some other satisfactory compensation was agreed upon personally with the member. The purpose of my post is not to argue with our policy or your suggestion, as I understand and think both have valid considerations. Rather, this post is to assure those that view this page that unlike many sample box subscriptions you may have tried or seen in the past our purpose is to serve the members of the Posh Pod. To provide a quality line from high end product to consumer no matter what the income bracket is. It is not to sell full size product of the designer's. It is not to advertise or pump up any particular line of product. We are here for one reason and one reason only, for the members. Thank you for your wonderful post "Zadidoll" and thank you to those that took the time to read both of these very important posts. The new blog on Posh Pod will soon show a full story on Posh Pod including the new 501C3 that is following in it's footsteps. It is wonderful to be able to provide a unique service to an industry that has taken a bit of a beating it seems. We may have a home made touch, but that speaks of our heart in this also and I can assure you what is in our Pods is all "POSH"!
  

Here's the link to it but again the post has since been deleted. https://www.facebook.com/PoshPod/posts/261259443961241?ref=notif&notif_t=feed_comment

Sheryl is so mislead by Gina/Silver but here at the facts that can be verified.

1. Posh Pod had an image of a Chanel palette that was counterfeit. The applicators in the image did not have the Chanel logo embossed on the handles as it is embossed on other Chanel palettes. The palette itself was not the same as other Chanel palettes in how it looked.
2. Posh Pod had images from Glossybox in her gallery and claimed that the items in those boxes were what she was sending out.
3. Posh Pod had written on their site they're working with brands implying she has a working relationship with companies like Chanel and Victoria Secret - when those companies were asked, basically the reply was they don't work with other companies such as beauty box subscriptions. Chanel has forwarded the image from Posh Pod's FB to their legal department as far as I know.
4. Posh Pod has claimed that designers do not want images of their products online in fear of those items counterfeit.
5. Posh Pod has sent out an email to at least a half dozen (or more) containing the personal information of at least two members.
6. Posh Pod's EBay account has been discovered, the comments left for Posh Pod on her profile shows that numerous items from the April Pod were bought on EBay and not obtained from the company as Gina/Silver has claimed on Facebook. http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=foxymommas1&ftab=AllFeedback&myworld=true

I could go on and on. Suffice it to say I'm annoyed that Sheryl has passed on a false claim from Gina/Silver without asking.

Bottom line is this. Posh Pod is not worth $30 since the products are off EBay. I would suggest Glossybox, Birchbox, Beauty Army or Beauty Fix.


Zadi, if you're going to put up my video as "evidence" of me being mislead by Silver and Gina, maybe you should post the ENTIRE thing.  Here's the part you failed to post-

Published on Apr 28, 2012 by Superfreaky1RU

Hey Freaky People! So there's been a lot of controversy surrounding this sample box company and the members of MakeUpTalk forum. In the interest of full disclosure here's some facts about both sides and what they've been up to and what I've been told about it from The Posh Pod.

The Posh Pod- 
-Used pictures of other sample boxes in their teaser videos including Glossybox.
-Put up photos of fake Chanel products on both their website and facebook page
-Used and continues to use language that suggests that they're working with the companies in their pods, even though they are not and say they are not in their FAQ page.
-Has bought cosmetics on ebay and has used them in their pods. 
-Has taken samples bought on ebay and shrink wrapped them and then called them sealed.
-Has included inexpensive items in a pod that is supposed to be high end and luxe.
HOWEVER...
-despite everything that was said about them my pod was worth well over the $30 it would cost and nothing in it was fake or expired.

MakeUpTalk Forum (as a whole)-
-Accused Silver and Gina of being the same person when they are not.
-Called The Posh Pod the next GoGoGirlfriend before the service had even launched.
-Alluded to the possibility that The Posh Pod was a towing company when they saw Silver's name on something called TOW and then when it was explained it was a cancer charity called Tree of Wishes said that it most likely was a lie and the cancer story was just told in an effort to get people to feel sorry for them and to leave them alone (Sorry MUT, I've seen the proof. Tree of Wishes is most definitely a cancer charity and Silver did some work and volunteered with them)
-Guessed that the pods would hold fake items, expired items, or both
-Debated whether The Posh Pod was a scam out to collect as much money as possible before they closed shop.
-(For my taste) Had a little too much fun finding spelling and/or grammar mistakes and pointing them out.
HOWEVER-
The members of the forum were great at doing research and finding things that were very unprofessional of The Posh Pod to do and put the information out for everyone to see, not to be malicious but because they we concerned about people losing money whether it be from a bad sample box or scam.. 

Things I think about the pod-
I think that Posh Pod has shown very unprofessional behavior but when asked about it provided me with a plausible reason as to why it wasn't something they were responsible for. Everything they have said to me sounded like it was most likely the truth and since they have answered every question I had without pause I had no reason to doubt them. 
HOWEVER-
I have recently seen on MUT that the owners of The Posh Pod also have a website development business. If this is proven true then it is in direct conflict with something that was said to me and if I was lied to about that then maybe I was lied to about more than that. As of now I don't know and can't answer that question. I find myself in an usual position because after many conversations with Silver, I find I genuinely like her. That being said, my reputation for judging both the good and the bad about sample boxes means more to me than anything and after going back and forth about this in my head over and over I've come to only this conclusion. For me personally, the concept of this service is very intriguing and I think it might be worth the gamble to subscribe to it for a while to test it out as long as I can swing the $30/month and if my viewers care about seeing what's in the pods. 

As for everyone else I can only tell you that you need to judge the merits against the risks for yourselves and see which side of the subscription line you end up on. In a few days, weeks, or months I might be more able to answer this question. I promise you as soon as I figure it out you'll all be the first to know.
And for the record, in the video before I said what I was told about your conversation with her, I clearly stated "I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS TRUE OR NOT".  Also, I never used your name or said anything bad about you at all.  I'm a subscriber to your youtube channel and have been for a long time and you know that.  And I've also posted on facebook pages with you with many of the same opinions.  But if you're out to make me public enemy #1 then so be it.  

I have nothing to be ashamed of.  I gave an honest review just like in every other video I've ever made and it's not like I gave them a glowing review or anything.  If you want to blast me for saying that I find myself in an unusual position because I found myself liking Silver then maybe you should go back and watch your video reviews of of MyGlam because in one of them I'm positive I heard you say that you found yourself liking Michelle Phan after talking with her and you didn't think you would.  How is that any different?  Also, and this goes for everyone reading this, is there no situation you can think of where 2 different women would have the same last name and be in business together?  Because off the top of my head I can give you three 1) they are mother and daughter 2) they are sisters and 3) they are life partners.  

Also, Silver and Gina do not have autism.  My son does and because of him I don't like it when people make judments of other people's abilities and intelligence based on their spelling and writing skills.  That is my opinion and I say right in the video that I am probably biased because of it.  If you find my son's Asperger's Syndrome to be irrelevant and have a differing opinion than fine.  But just because your opinion differs from mine doesn't make mine wrong.  We are all allowed to have our own.

And lastly, The Posh Pod offered my a free PR box back on March 6th.  I'm not sure but I don't believe that any Posh Pod comments even go back that far.  My phone conversation with her was on April 3rd.  Both of which can be proven true with a copy of the email and my phone records.  None of my review was a "new strategy" launched by her or me.  I got my pod on April 15th and meant to do the review soon after that but I haven't been feeling all that well so I haven't been able to make any videos until yesterday.  If you look at my video history you'll see my last video before yesterday was on April 14th, and I hadn't yet received my pod.

 

[NutMeg19]

And to the Vlogger...if you were so concerned abo. ut our comments and you "KNEW THE TRUTH" way before the rest of us...why didn't you post and set us straight? That doesn't make sense.  I'm not buying it.

YES! Exactly! That entire vlog was so bizarre. I thought the "knew the truth" part was weird, and I don't buy it either.

 

[meaganola]

Well.  I *was* going to come over here and post my response to the whole thing, but I think everyone has already addressed every single thing I was going to say.  No need to rehash it aside from saying that my main issue is that Posh Pod is presented as a *business*.  There are certain rules you need to follow if you want to be respected as a business.  This whole thing hit my SCAMTASTIC radar with the Sephora pictures, and it has just gone downhill from there.  Every time I think it's hit the bottom, something else happens.  It's truly amazing.  I've been trying to think what can happen next, and I'm drawing a blank

Also, I notice that the video doesn't even *touch* on the pdf debacle.  It seems like that's really where the shit hit the fan.  It makes it seem like everyone ganged up on a poor, defenseless person.  As far as I can tell, it really started with us questioning the pictures and then getting accused of slander/libel.  If we say pictures aren't of the actual products and then she says that the pictures weren't of the actual products, she cannot claim defamation regardless of her reasons.  She also can't claim this if we're looking at the pictures and questioning them because, hello, we're trying to figure out if they're legitimate or not.  We're potential customers.  We have the right to question.  She does not have the right to block us from doing that.

 

[NutMeg19]

I'm thinking the same thing.

Me too...that was my first thought when I watched the video.