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the seller should have insured them, but yes, file a claim with the PO and then try to file with paypal (via ebay)
Those are my next steps. The post office "investigated" by asking the mail carrier, who was adamant that he put them in my box. Right, considering a few days ago he gave me my neighbor's stack of bills. They refuse any responsibility. Tracking shows one package "delivered" at 11 am, and the rest delivered at almost 2pm. Ugh.

 
I still haven't got my bag.  This is becoming a recurring thing - same thing last month.  I got a ship notice on 7/3 and USPS shows it was supposed to be delivered on Tuesday, but the last tracking was 7/7 out of New Jersey, and no updates since then:

https://tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction?qtc_tLabels1=9400110200882239616510

A friend of mine in a small Oklahoma town got her ship notice AFTER me and got her bag 2 days ago.  I'm in an Atlanta suburb . . . and nothin'.

Here's a tracking on a recent swap that also went through Kearny, NJ -- it was shipped on 6/23 (with an expected delivery of 6/27) -- and I didn't get it 'til 7/5:

https://tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction_input?qtc_tLabels1=9400111899561528383009

WHAT is up in Kearny, NJ?  It's like there's a Bermuda Triangle between there and Atlanta!  Like I said earlier, I get First Class packages from CALIFORNIA in two days!  New Jersey?  Two weeks.
I refer to it as the Black Hole of Kearny.  Living in NJ, pretty much all of my packages go through there -- some more than once, and a few have been through the "arrived, processed, departed" cycle THREE times before they actually send it on to my local PO, 45 miles away.

I now just add 2 days to the expected delivery date of anything that's coming to me that gets routed through Kearny.  I wish someone would explain it to me!

 
I still haven't got my bag. This is becoming a recurring thing - same thing last month. I got a ship notice on 7/3 and USPS shows it was supposed to be delivered on Tuesday, but the last tracking was 7/7 out of New Jersey, and no updates since then:

https://tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction?qtc_tLabels1=9400110200882239616510

A friend of mine in a small Oklahoma town got her ship notice AFTER me and got her bag 2 days ago. I'm in an Atlanta suburb . . . and nothin'.

Here's a tracking on a recent swap that also went through Kearny, NJ -- it was shipped on 6/23 (with an expected delivery of 6/27) -- and I didn't get it 'til 7/5:

https://tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction_input?qtc_tLabels1=9400111899561528383009

WHAT is up in Kearny, NJ? It's like there's a Bermuda Triangle between there and Atlanta! Like I said earlier, I get First Class packages from CALIFORNIA in two days! New Jersey? Two weeks.
I've had a few packages recently go through there. I think they're not scanning as they should and then this somehow throws off all the scans...I don't know, just speculating. I've just seen tracking stop there and then it ends up delivered a few days later.

 
I refer to it as the Black Hole of Kearny.  Living in NJ, pretty much all of my packages go through there -- some more than once, and a few have been through the "arrived, processed, departed" cycle THREE times before they actually send it on to my local PO, 45 miles away.

I now just add 2 days to the expected delivery date of anything that's coming to me that gets routed through Kearny.  I wish someone would explain it to me!

I still haven't received the bag - mail already ran today.  Ship notice on 7/3, estimated delivery of 7/8 but went through Kearny, NJ on 7/7 when it stopped being tracked.  Still no tracking updates and it's now 7/12 and I don't have my package.  The earliest I can possibly get it now is 7/14.  That's pushing it even by USPS Ground standards.

https://tools.usps.com/go/TrackConfirmAction?qtc_tLabels1=9400110200882239616510

I am a little put out that when I wrote RH on 7/10 to tell them my package from them was in a black hole again (as I have sent them tracking inquiries in the past when bags were 7-10 days past the last tracking) - even beginning this note with:

"Just want to start off with - this is in NO WAY your fault - but I'm starting to get beyond frustrated with USPS shipments that go through Kearny, NJ."

The reply I got back basically puts the burden on me to find my own package and the root of the problem.  As the vendor and shipper, I feel the following should be their job.

We completely understand your frustration and thank you for alerting us regarding your package.  Did you get a chance to contact USPS directly regarding the delivery of your packages?  Their contact phone number is 800-275-8777 and they will not only investigate why your package has been delayed, but they can provide better insight as to why their Kearny facility is taking longer to sort packages.  They will also give you an updated delivery date as well.  Unfortunately, we do not control where our packages get sorted and it seems that Kearny is a regional sort center.  In addition, recently we’ve been experiencing delays from USPS ourselves, but eventually the packages do get delivered.

So at what point does this become THEIR responsibility and I'm allowed to be upset?  15 days?  21 days?  30 days?  (I am a "large mystery bag" subscriber, by the way, and I've placed separate monthly orders through RH since signing up with them.  This time it's a $25 mystery bag that's vanished.)

 
I'd be upset too, but I'd be upset at USPS, and filing whatever complaints that I can with them (In case you haven't yet: https://www.usps.com/ship/file-domestic-claims.htm ).

Unless the package is returned, there isn't really anything for RH to do.
Actually I ship USPS for my business quite often and it is their responsibility as the shipper - they will have more impact on a claim / inquiry at this stage than I will.  Both parties can contact USPS, but without a delivery being attempted to me or it even tracking in my region, their originating post office should start the investigation.

 
Actually I ship USPS for my business quite often and it is their responsibility as the shipper - they will have more impact on a claim / inquiry at this stage than I will.  Both parties can contact USPS, but without a delivery being attempted to me or it even tracking in my region, their originating post office should start the investigation.
This is the last reply I received (Saturday evening):

Hello Robyn,
 
We completely share your frustration about USPS and their inability to keep tracking information up to date, scanning packages when received and sorting in a timely manner.  We are just as outraged and you have no idea how many times we have contacted them ourselves to voice our complaints about missing packages on behalf of our customers.  We had suggested for you to contact USPS since this is not the first time this has happened to you and your address and we felt that they would give you better insight as to why it takes so long to sort through Kearny and to give you an updated delivery date directly.  Unfortunately, working with USPS is extremely difficult, although it is not the norm, a small percentage of packages do get lost, delivered to the wrong address or delayed for an internal USPS backlog.  In all of those cases we work directly with the customer and USPS to find a resolution and our commitment is that if the package gets lost or does not arrive, we will reship it, so no worries.   However please understand that sorting, tracking and delivery of the package itself is unfortunately beyond our control.  
 
We will contact a rep with our local post office on monday morning and I’ll get back to you as soon as I have an answer from them.  If by any chance the package arrives, please drop me a line and let me know.  We’ll get to the bottom of this and I’ll keep you posted. 
 
Have a great weekend.
 

Sincerely,
Carolyn 
[email protected]
www.rainbowhoney.com
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The part that now has me upset the most is that last month (when the same thing happened) I was told:  "I will contact USPS tomorrow and find out what is going on with your package as the tracking details are very odd."

Now this month I'm being told:  "We are just as outraged and you have no idea how many times we have contacted them ourselves to voice our complaints about missing packages on behalf of our customers."

So which one is it?  Is it "very odd" -- or is it something I have no idea how many times it's happened?

Not once have I heard "I'm sorry" or "I do apologize".

I'm not asking for free merchandise here.  I haven't even asked for a replacement bag.  I just want to know where my stuff is at and why this keeps happening if they are aware that shipping method has issues.  If they share my frustration, apologize for it and promise me that it will not continue to happen.  Change carriers for the regions they know experience repeated missing items and delays.

This thread has multiple posts of people being sent full-size gift items for backorders and delays.  Last month I placed an order on 6/11 - not for a Mystery Bag - this was a normal, multiple item order.  After 10 days it had still not updated online, and I had not received a shipping notice.  I wrote to see if there was a delay and was told the Nail Honey in my order had been on backorder and it would be shipping that afternoon - I would receive tracking soon.

 
Hello Robyn,
Thank you for your email.  I’ve just heard back from my shipping department and they expect to ship your order today as it was waiting for a restock of Nail Honey.  Your order will ship this afternoon and you will receive a separate confirmation email with tracking.
If I can help with anything else, please feel free to contact me at anytime!
Sincerely,
Carolyn 
[email protected]
www.rainbowhoney.com
Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | Blog | Website

But it didn't ship until the next day, and I never did receive tracking.  I had to follow the shipping progress through their website.  My order placed on 6/11 finally arrived on 6/25 - and that was not the fault of USPS.  Not once did RH contact me after the order was originally placed.  I had to contact them.  Nevermind offering me a bonus item -- I never even heard "We're sorry an item from your order is backordered.  We expect your order to ship by ________."

I keep reading about their good customer service -- and keep wondering why I'm not really getting the same.  They say they'll get to the bottom of this latest missing shipment, but there are no reassurances this won't continue to be a problem in the future for me.  How long should I resign myself to (im)patiently wait each month after everyone else has had their bags for days / weeks?

 
I have always been pleased with RH's customer service.  I think she might have meant that your tracking information details may look odd, but it is common for Kearny to delay and misroute packages.

I know I had a package (not from RH) that went back and forth from Rochester, NY to Nashua, NH sorting stations for TWO weeks.  They finally intercepted it after I called my local PO (which is neither Rochester or Nashua) and they were the ones who spoke with those two sorting stations to see if they could nab it the next time it appeared.  They were able to, but it did take 2 weeks.

My tracking on that package looked very odd - however, it is quite common for Nashua. NH sorting station to delay packages.   

They are an indie company and I have the feeling that they do not have a lot of staff - I do think they are doing the best they can.  They cannot assure anyone anything once the package leaves their hands into the PO.   All they can do is wait a reasonable amount of time  and then reship.  Most packages do show up after a couple of weeks.  Packages fall off the sorting belt and aren't discovered by the PO for several days, if not weeks.

They should have told you that an item you ordered was out of stock and kept you up to date on the shipping.  There is no excuse for that.  I have had that happen to me before with them and they did give me a bonus item, but I didn't know that until I got the package...The only thing I can tell you is that you will get your purchases from RH.  They will make good on them, I am sure.   I hope that is some small consolation.

I totally understand your frustration, however.  I get this with birchbox ALL the time.  And lately, they haven't been offering anything (nor have I been asking) for all of their delays and screwups - and I do not consider BB to be an indie company.

 
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I totally understand your frustration, however.  I get this with birchbox ALL the time.  And lately, they haven't been offering anything (nor have I been asking) for all of their delays and screwups - and I do not consider BB to be an indie company.
That's almost exactly what I told them:  "I expect this type of communication from a corporation like Julep that is more interested in venture capital investments than individual customers. That is precisely why I moved my subscription to Rainbow Honey after reading multiple stories and reviews..."

I think if I'd just heard "I'm sorry" or "I do apologize" once that would have went a long way in smoothing it over.  It's not just one instance.  And it's not just with my Mystery Bag.  I'm having issues with them using USPS each month.  I'm having issues with them sending my regular (non Mystery Bag) orders, and the delays are not USPS's fault.

Growing pains are unavoidable.  As are shipping issues.  I also included this:  "I own a business that's had to rely heavily on shipping for very time sensitive items like birth announcements and Christmas cards.  I know shipping woes, delays, awful postal hubs, lost packages, deliveries left in the rain, etc.  I have been there on both sides."

I do understand.  I'm not asking for the moon.  Really, I'm not.  But there are too many other subscription boxes and polish companies out there that do communicate during backorders and arrive quickly.  My Allure box shipped Friday and I should have it Monday.  And it included nail polish so it wasn't sent Priority.

 
When I first contacted rainbow honey in regards to my incorrectly delivered bag, I felt like the response was essentially "oh well, your problem. Contact usps." Well, I did that, and the post office sloughed me off, saying it was delivered to me. Ummm, no it wasn't.

Yesterday, I got an email from Carolyn saying she has put in a request that a new bag be shipped to me, and she's filing a claim with usps. I'm satisfied and happy with that, as I know my butthead mailman isn't their fault...but I still have wariness as to whether it'll happen or not. I haaaaaate usps lol

 
Big bummer update:  I cancelled my RH subscription last night.  It was something I did not want to do, but felt at this point I had no other choice.


I did file a post office case yesterday, as did RH separately.  (Heads-up that the link posted above does not work for First Class / Ground items.  If you wish to report a missing First Class package online, you have to actually do that through your tracking page with the "Customer Service" link.  The link posted above is for mail with upgrade services such as Priority shipping, insurance, etc.)

This was my "goodbye, cruel world" letter to RH:

Thank you for the update.  I submitted a USPS request from my end as well and that number is:  ______________

 
My July Mystery Bag did not show up today and the tracking has now not updated for a full week (since (July 7, 2014 at  9:40 pm in Kearny, NJ).
 
 
Due to the brevity of this latest reply, its lack of personalization, and the fact that I have still yet to even hear "we apologize" or "we're sorry" regarding any of these past and present issues, I feel like you are not interested in keeping me as a subscriber and customer.
 
Up until this latest incident I have truly loved your company -- and I still very much love your products (and subscription bag when I receive it).
 
But there are no assurances this will not be a continuing issue -- and as previously pointed out, my experience with RH's customer service has been far from the norm discussed elsewhere.
 
 
It was with much sadness that I just cancelled my Large Mystery Bag shortly before sending this e-mail.
 
I want Rainbow Honey to want me as a customer as much as I wanted to be your customer.  It's heartbreaking to realize that is just not the case.
 
Especially considering the additional memberships I've brought you by my recommendations online via Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, blogs, and forums in the past.
 
 
I don't require free gifts, merchandise credits, or extra bags to keep me happy and keep my business.  I have stated more than once that I am a small business owner and not only do I completely understand shipping issues and delays - I also do not hold you personally accountable for them.  (The one exception being order #9788 when I had to write concerning an order placed 10 days prior - with no notice during that time that one item was on backorder and the shipping would be delayed on your end.)
 
However, I also do not think the burden should be placed on the customer to make initial contact with a shipper, or even have to worry about receiving a package when 10 days have passed - or have to wonder when / if a replacement will be issued.  This was specifically asked about in my prior communication, and not addressed by you in this one.
 
 
At $25.00/month, there are simply too many other subscription services who very much want my business -- including the ones I'm already a part of (<snip of my current suscription list>).
 
I wish your company all the best during it's growing pains phase -- and look forward to your next tracking update -- and also finally receiving what will now -unfortunately- be my last Rainbow Honey Large Mystery Bag.
 
Thank you for your time and assistance --
 
 
After my previous e-mail of questions and concerns, all I received back was the following (which prompted me to unsubscribe) - there is no end in sight for me - I have been offered no other solution than to sit here and wait it out even longer with both the USPS and now Rainbow Honey:
 
 

Hello Robyn,
 
We have contacted USPS and have opened up a case on your package.  The case number for you package is CA118607783.  They have also advised me that it will take up to two days to hear back from the USPS representative who will be investigating this claim, with more details about the whereabouts of your package. As soon as I hear back from I will follow up again to this email. 
 
Sincerely, 
Carolyn
 
This is the first time I have been sent a RH communication that did not include "If I can help with anything else, please feel free to contact me at anytime!" at the end.  It also did not include the business signature, and for the first time Carolyn did not "Cc:" the [email protected] address with her reply.  Every communication we've had up until now has included the customer service address in her replies.
 
To me, the writing was on the wall.  In no way have I ever been angry, abusive, or combative in my communications.  I only treat customer service inquiries in the manner in which I'd want to hear from and reply to my own customers.  I do, however, expect the same level of customer support in return that I would provide for my customers...
 
For whatever reason, they just weren't willing to give it to me.  It's a bit like the scene in "When Harry Met Sally" where Sally is sobbing, "All this time I thought he didn't want to get married. But, the truth is, he didn't want to marry me. He didn't love me."
 
Now if you'll excuse me, I have a tub of ice cream to go eat.   :( /emoticons/[email protected] 2x" width="20" height="20" /> 

 
 
I just ordered my first mystery bag from them on July 13th which I realize is a Sunday.  Today I got an email confirming the order but it has not yet shipped.  Is this normal?  Reading through some people's postal story/cs nightmares is making me nervous.  TIA!

 
I tried to cancel my sub today and apparently it says my email is not in their system, even though I'm getting emails from them. Sigh...

 
I tried to cancel my sub today and apparently it says my email is not in their system, even though I'm getting emails from them. Sigh...
They should have sent you a special link email when you first signed up, try searching your inbox for it. You can cancel from that special link.

 
I just ordered my first mystery bag from them on July 13th which I realize is a Sunday.  Today I got an email confirming the order but it has not yet shipped.  Is this normal?  Reading through some people's postal story/cs nightmares is making me nervous.  TIA!
I've only placed one order, but I ordered Sea Star and the June mystery bag (for my Midsummer FGC) on Sunday the 1st, received an order confirmation on Tuesday the 3rd, received shipping on Thursday the 5th, and received the order itself on Monday the 9th.  Based on my one order, the timing on yours does not seem unusual.

 
I've only placed one order, but I ordered Sea Star and the June mystery bag (for my Midsummer FGC) on Sunday the 1st, received an order confirmation on Tuesday the 3rd, received shipping on Thursday the 5th, and received the order itself on Monday the 9th.  Based on my one order, the timing on yours does not seem unusual.
Great thanks!  I am excited to see what is in the July mystery bag!  Is there a place people post what they get or is that on here (in this thread)?  Guess I can always google!

 
I just ordered my first mystery bag from them on July 13th which I realize is a Sunday.  Today I got an email confirming the order but it has not yet shipped.  Is this normal?  Reading through some people's postal story/cs nightmares is making me nervous.  TIA!
Yeah they're rare in that they send you an email when they're getting your order together, AND when it ships. Doesn't take long usually.

 

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