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I cancelled after January's box. Now I am very glad I did so. I would not have been pleased with this box at all. I subbed to the Nina Garcia box, we'll see how that goes!
POPSUGAR Must Have February 2014 (SPOILERS!)
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Loved your post!! So true. While I love the spoilers, sometimes reading the comments really ruins the box for me.
I am counting the true and co code (20$) as part of the box...so for me this box is a win! Yeah the Dial is lackluster at best, but I have 3 kids so it will get used. The jewelry roll is nice too and and I always love nail polish. Can't wait for my box to arrive!
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Quote: Originally Posted by Emsmom /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Oh, wow, I didn't know that was against the rules. Sorry. I'll try to edit. Is the rule that you can swap not sell? Even in the swap section (I sometimes see swap or sell posts)...
Within this thread, only discussion of the box itself is allowed, no swapping, trading, or selling. Swaps and trades can be done here:
https://www.makeuptalk.com/t/140312/popsugar-2014-swaps-and-trades
Or in a regular trade post on the buy/sell/trade boards:
https://www.makeuptalk.com/f/23798/subscription-box-swaps
As always, contact myself or any other mod with questions or concerns!
Oh, wow, I didn't know that was against the rules. Sorry. I'll try to edit. Is the rule that you can swap not sell? Even in the swap section (I sometimes see swap or sell posts)...
Within this thread, only discussion of the box itself is allowed, no swapping, trading, or selling. Swaps and trades can be done here:
https://www.makeuptalk.com/t/140312/popsugar-2014-swaps-and-trades
Or in a regular trade post on the buy/sell/trade boards:
https://www.makeuptalk.com/f/23798/subscription-box-swaps
As always, contact myself or any other mod with questions or concerns!
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The more I think on this Dove body wash...
I absolutely agree it seems out of place in what is billed as a cutting-edge style box for women. You'd think Popsugar would have gotten the memo on that by now.
But I am not offended by the item so much as suspicious of it. What would possess PS to lower their standards and throw this in, with the risk to their overall brand reputation? Kickbacks from Dove--if so, they are not passing on any of those perks to us, are they?
What bugs me is that we are now being charged more per month, and that this heavy item contributes substantially to the shipping cost with little value add (I think someone said $3).
It feels like they threw this in to make the box heavier or more "substantial", a claim others have made on past boxes as well. This raises the shipping cost, likely more than $3, for anyone who ever swaps and trades knows, shipping this at consumer rates would not be worth the effort.
If you are going to put some drugstore freebee-style item in, I prefer the way Birchbox has done it (like the winter chapstick a few months back). They give it in ADDITION to all the other stuff, and it doesn't mess with the box weight/shipping issues. In that case, they made it very clear that this was an extra, and not a regular item in their Branded service. I was happy to get it and use it. It didn't make me think less of the Birchbox brand.
Even BETTER would be a company like Dove wants in with a product that is clearly not especially innovative, on trend, or doesn't fit the Popsugar mission statement, they can pay their own way to get into our hands. We are supposed to be a select group of women who care about this stuff, so getting a product into our hands has a lot of value to a company.
I think we'd be more accepting if this month's shipping was perhaps brought to you by DOVE, who's a reasonable woman-focused company in its own right... especially if they comp'd the shipping and sent a coupon for a free new body wash instead of the bottle through the mail. Mine will probably explode by the time it gets to my house anyway, it's so cold out. We would likely think a lot better of the situation then, would we not?
Suds for thought.
I absolutely agree it seems out of place in what is billed as a cutting-edge style box for women. You'd think Popsugar would have gotten the memo on that by now.
But I am not offended by the item so much as suspicious of it. What would possess PS to lower their standards and throw this in, with the risk to their overall brand reputation? Kickbacks from Dove--if so, they are not passing on any of those perks to us, are they?
What bugs me is that we are now being charged more per month, and that this heavy item contributes substantially to the shipping cost with little value add (I think someone said $3).
It feels like they threw this in to make the box heavier or more "substantial", a claim others have made on past boxes as well. This raises the shipping cost, likely more than $3, for anyone who ever swaps and trades knows, shipping this at consumer rates would not be worth the effort.
If you are going to put some drugstore freebee-style item in, I prefer the way Birchbox has done it (like the winter chapstick a few months back). They give it in ADDITION to all the other stuff, and it doesn't mess with the box weight/shipping issues. In that case, they made it very clear that this was an extra, and not a regular item in their Branded service. I was happy to get it and use it. It didn't make me think less of the Birchbox brand.
Even BETTER would be a company like Dove wants in with a product that is clearly not especially innovative, on trend, or doesn't fit the Popsugar mission statement, they can pay their own way to get into our hands. We are supposed to be a select group of women who care about this stuff, so getting a product into our hands has a lot of value to a company.
I think we'd be more accepting if this month's shipping was perhaps brought to you by DOVE, who's a reasonable woman-focused company in its own right... especially if they comp'd the shipping and sent a coupon for a free new body wash instead of the bottle through the mail. Mine will probably explode by the time it gets to my house anyway, it's so cold out. We would likely think a lot better of the situation then, would we not?
Suds for thought.
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Quote: Originally Posted by sorsha /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Well, condescending is not something I was really aiming for, and perhaps I shouldn't have binge read the 10+ pages of [mostly] how much people dislike stuff but continue to subscribe to it seems a bit ridiculous, especially when coupled with trying to find at least one thing you love in the box, just to justify the expenditure to yourself. I think we all do this. I am not trying to be a troll, but yeah, I am going to say what I feel here. I thought that was the point.
I feel like this every month. I am almost positive if you took the dial soap out most people would love or at least like this box, yet they have their head wrapped around this one silly item (Extra item I might add) and are making it out to be cheap. I don't mind discussion of items and what you liked and didn't like, but I don't need to see 50 posts of people just saying it's a waste of money and they are gonna cancel. If you wanna cancel do it and get on with it.
Well, condescending is not something I was really aiming for, and perhaps I shouldn't have binge read the 10+ pages of [mostly] how much people dislike stuff but continue to subscribe to it seems a bit ridiculous, especially when coupled with trying to find at least one thing you love in the box, just to justify the expenditure to yourself. I think we all do this. I am not trying to be a troll, but yeah, I am going to say what I feel here. I thought that was the point.
I feel like this every month. I am almost positive if you took the dial soap out most people would love or at least like this box, yet they have their head wrapped around this one silly item (Extra item I might add) and are making it out to be cheap. I don't mind discussion of items and what you liked and didn't like, but I don't need to see 50 posts of people just saying it's a waste of money and they are gonna cancel. If you wanna cancel do it and get on with it.
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Okay, I take back what I said. What you said here is exactly what I was thinking! It feels almost sneaky- making us think we're getting amazing products with this 3lb weight and we get a giant bottle of body wash by Dial (Dove?) instead. I feel like there are plenty of other "drugstore" brands that they could've put in that would've fit with the style of the box. I hear "Dial" and I automatically think "boyfriend's body wash in a pinch" lol.
And I'm terrified that it's going to be all over everything...especially the jewelry roll. I'm in Illinois and the temperatures have been ridiculous.
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Quote: Originally Posted by sorsha /img/forum/go_quote.gif
The more I think on this Dove body wash...
I absolutely agree it seems out of place in what is billed as a cutting-edge style box for women. You'd think Popsugar would have gotten the memo on that by now.
But I am not offended by the item so much as suspicious of it. What would possess PS to lower their standards and throw this in, with the risk to their overall brand reputation? Kickbacks from Dove--if so, they are not passing on any of those perks to us, are they?
What bugs me is that we are now being charged more per month, and that this heavy item contributes substantially to the shipping cost with little value add (I think someone said $3).
It feels like they threw this in to make the box heavier or more "substantial", a claim others have made on past boxes as well. This raises the shipping cost, likely more than $3, for anyone who ever swaps and trades knows, shipping this at consumer rates would not be worth the effort.
If you are going to put some drugstore freebee-style item in, I prefer the way Birchbox has done it (like the winter chapstick a few months back). They give it in ADDITION to all the other stuff, and it doesn't mess with the box weight/shipping issues. In that case, they made it very clear that this was an extra, and not a regular item in their Branded service. I was happy to get it and use it. It didn't make me think less of the Birchbox brand.
Even BETTER would be a company like Dove wants in with a product that is clearly not especially innovative, on trend, or doesn't fit the Popsugar mission statement, they can pay their own way to get into our hands. We are supposed to be a select group of women who care about this stuff, so getting a product into our hands has a lot of value to a company.
I think we'd be more accepting if this month's shipping was perhaps brought to you by DOVE, who's a reasonable woman-focused company in its own right... especially if they comp'd the shipping and sent a coupon for a free new body wash instead of the bottle through the mail. Mine will probably explode by the time it gets to my house anyway, it's so cold out. We would likely think a lot better of the situation then, would we not?
Suds for thought.
And I'm terrified that it's going to be all over everything...especially the jewelry roll. I'm in Illinois and the temperatures have been ridiculous.
/emoticons/[email protected] 2x" width="20" height="20" />Quote: Originally Posted by sorsha /img/forum/go_quote.gif
The more I think on this Dove body wash...
I absolutely agree it seems out of place in what is billed as a cutting-edge style box for women. You'd think Popsugar would have gotten the memo on that by now.
But I am not offended by the item so much as suspicious of it. What would possess PS to lower their standards and throw this in, with the risk to their overall brand reputation? Kickbacks from Dove--if so, they are not passing on any of those perks to us, are they?
What bugs me is that we are now being charged more per month, and that this heavy item contributes substantially to the shipping cost with little value add (I think someone said $3).
It feels like they threw this in to make the box heavier or more "substantial", a claim others have made on past boxes as well. This raises the shipping cost, likely more than $3, for anyone who ever swaps and trades knows, shipping this at consumer rates would not be worth the effort.
If you are going to put some drugstore freebee-style item in, I prefer the way Birchbox has done it (like the winter chapstick a few months back). They give it in ADDITION to all the other stuff, and it doesn't mess with the box weight/shipping issues. In that case, they made it very clear that this was an extra, and not a regular item in their Branded service. I was happy to get it and use it. It didn't make me think less of the Birchbox brand.
Even BETTER would be a company like Dove wants in with a product that is clearly not especially innovative, on trend, or doesn't fit the Popsugar mission statement, they can pay their own way to get into our hands. We are supposed to be a select group of women who care about this stuff, so getting a product into our hands has a lot of value to a company.
I think we'd be more accepting if this month's shipping was perhaps brought to you by DOVE, who's a reasonable woman-focused company in its own right... especially if they comp'd the shipping and sent a coupon for a free new body wash instead of the bottle through the mail. Mine will probably explode by the time it gets to my house anyway, it's so cold out. We would likely think a lot better of the situation then, would we not?
Suds for thought.
Quote: Originally Posted by sorsha /img/forum/go_quote.gif
If you are going to put some drugstore freebee-style item in, I prefer the way Birchbox has done it (like the winter chapstick a few months back). They give it in ADDITION to all the other stuff, and it doesn't mess with the box weight/shipping issues. In that case, they made it very clear that this was an extra, and not a regular item in their Branded service. I was happy to get it and use it. It didn't make me think less of the Birchbox brand.
I am not trying to sound like a tool here, but they listed this item on the card as a "special extra". They clearly didn't do it to count toward the total value of the box.
While I do understand your shipping weight concerns, we don't pay for shipping and, frankly, the value of the box in total would have been in keeping with the general value of the past boxes. Likely, what happened was Dial contacted them and agreed to pay PopSugar the shipping costs and gave the product to them free and they thought it would just be a little extra thing that some people wouldn't mind getting. Is this an innovative product that I'm just going to be over the moon about? Nope. Will it get used in my house with a teenage boy and my husband? Yup.
I am definitely not trying to be mean here (this is not directed at you, Sorsha, but as a total aside), but the witching about this box is just insane to me. Yeah, if I had paid $40 for this, I probably wouldn't be over the moon, but the value is pretty clear and, while it may not be everything you want and more, that's the problem with "mystery boxes". Yes, you could take $40 and buy a product or two that you love instead of this box of who knows what, but that's kind of the point, isn't it? To get things to try and see if you fall in love with them. I went into this with the realization that I may not like everything I get. In fact, some months, I may not like ANYTHING I get. It's up to me to decide if I want to continue paying for it.
I mean...you paid $20-40 for a box of surprise and you got a box of surprise. I'm just confused why there is so much anger over it...
If you are going to put some drugstore freebee-style item in, I prefer the way Birchbox has done it (like the winter chapstick a few months back). They give it in ADDITION to all the other stuff, and it doesn't mess with the box weight/shipping issues. In that case, they made it very clear that this was an extra, and not a regular item in their Branded service. I was happy to get it and use it. It didn't make me think less of the Birchbox brand.
I am not trying to sound like a tool here, but they listed this item on the card as a "special extra". They clearly didn't do it to count toward the total value of the box.
While I do understand your shipping weight concerns, we don't pay for shipping and, frankly, the value of the box in total would have been in keeping with the general value of the past boxes. Likely, what happened was Dial contacted them and agreed to pay PopSugar the shipping costs and gave the product to them free and they thought it would just be a little extra thing that some people wouldn't mind getting. Is this an innovative product that I'm just going to be over the moon about? Nope. Will it get used in my house with a teenage boy and my husband? Yup.
I am definitely not trying to be mean here (this is not directed at you, Sorsha, but as a total aside), but the witching about this box is just insane to me. Yeah, if I had paid $40 for this, I probably wouldn't be over the moon, but the value is pretty clear and, while it may not be everything you want and more, that's the problem with "mystery boxes". Yes, you could take $40 and buy a product or two that you love instead of this box of who knows what, but that's kind of the point, isn't it? To get things to try and see if you fall in love with them. I went into this with the realization that I may not like everything I get. In fact, some months, I may not like ANYTHING I get. It's up to me to decide if I want to continue paying for it.
I mean...you paid $20-40 for a box of surprise and you got a box of surprise. I'm just confused why there is so much anger over it...
Quote: Originally Posted by Emsmom /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Oh, wow, I didn't know that was against the rules. Sorry. I'll try to edit. Is the rule that you can swap not sell? Even in the swap section (I sometimes see swap or sell posts)...
They don't want you to post on the actual sub's page, they want you to only do it on pages labeled swap/sell.
Oh, wow, I didn't know that was against the rules. Sorry. I'll try to edit. Is the rule that you can swap not sell? Even in the swap section (I sometimes see swap or sell posts)...
They don't want you to post on the actual sub's page, they want you to only do it on pages labeled swap/sell.
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I actually agree about Model Co. I feel like they are a low end brand trying to trick people into thinking they're high end.
I already have 2 of the same model co item. That's why I am cancelling plus I don't get my moneys worth for over 40 dollars its not worth it for me
I actually agree about Model Co. I feel like they are a low end brand trying to trick people into thinking they're high end.
I already have 2 of the same model co item. That's why I am cancelling plus I don't get my moneys worth for over 40 dollars its not worth it for me
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Quote: Originally Posted by ashleygo /img/forum/go_quote.gif
I feel like this every month. I am almost positive if you took the dial soap out most people would love or at least like this box, yet they have their head wrapped around this one silly item (Extra item I might add) and are making it out to be cheap. I don't mind discussion of items and what you liked and didn't like, but I don't need to see 50 posts of people just saying it's a waste of money and they are gonna cancel. If you wanna cancel do it and get on with it.
I like the box and I am not going to cancel.
However, I do think adding the Dial soap was a bad move. Going into this month, they encouraged us to gift this box to the ladies in our lives for Valentine's Day. This is a fantastic opportunity to expand their customer base by getting their boxes in the hands of people who would like this sort of subscription but haven't heard of them or maybe were hesitant to try them out with the $40 price tag. And they gave these potential customers Dial Body Wash. It is the largest item (size & weight) in the box and the first thing you notice. If this is the first box I am seeing from Pop Sugar, it doesn't make me want to subscribe. I do think the box would have looked better without it because it lowers the bar for the products you can anticipate in future boxes.
I think the January box would have made a better impression on potential subscribers.
I feel like this every month. I am almost positive if you took the dial soap out most people would love or at least like this box, yet they have their head wrapped around this one silly item (Extra item I might add) and are making it out to be cheap. I don't mind discussion of items and what you liked and didn't like, but I don't need to see 50 posts of people just saying it's a waste of money and they are gonna cancel. If you wanna cancel do it and get on with it.
I like the box and I am not going to cancel.
However, I do think adding the Dial soap was a bad move. Going into this month, they encouraged us to gift this box to the ladies in our lives for Valentine's Day. This is a fantastic opportunity to expand their customer base by getting their boxes in the hands of people who would like this sort of subscription but haven't heard of them or maybe were hesitant to try them out with the $40 price tag. And they gave these potential customers Dial Body Wash. It is the largest item (size & weight) in the box and the first thing you notice. If this is the first box I am seeing from Pop Sugar, it doesn't make me want to subscribe. I do think the box would have looked better without it because it lowers the bar for the products you can anticipate in future boxes.
I think the January box would have made a better impression on potential subscribers.
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I also think if they would have left out the dial it would have appeared to be a better box. The dial kinda dilutes the feeling im getting of value
It they had a nice high end soap or a higher end body wash that was smaller would have made the box look better IMO
I also think if they would have left out the dial it would have appeared to be a better box. The dial kinda dilutes the feeling im getting of value
It they had a nice high end soap or a higher end body wash that was smaller would have made the box look better IMO
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Ok, so thought a bit more, calmed down a bit, and remove the Dial from the box and I'm pretty excited. Just looked up Gorjana (sorry, new t PS) and found a pair of earrings I love and a scarf that was in the fall FFf box that I wanted. And I'm not a lipstick person so I never buy that so I'm kind of excited to actually own lipstick! Curious about the face serum. I traded FOR the January mask and LOVE it (it's why I joined PS). And I don't have a jewelry roll, probably would never buy myself one, but could totally use it. My four year old ill love the nail polish. And I can always use candles. So... I'm actually now getting excited for this box as it has stuff that I wouldn't buy myself but will be fun to try. Just ignore the dial and it's actually fun!
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Quote: Originally Posted by EevieK /img/forum/go_quote.gif
Does anyone like black licorice?
...can they at least just be jelly beans if they must be in there haha.
Oh, well. I'm excited for the serum.
A little embarrassed to be giving this box to my mom and sister now. Should have stuck with flowers, haha.
I really love black licorice, but I know that most people don't. I think it's a love or hate kind of candy, hehe.
Does anyone like black licorice?
...can they at least just be jelly beans if they must be in there haha.
Oh, well. I'm excited for the serum.
A little embarrassed to be giving this box to my mom and sister now. Should have stuck with flowers, haha.
I really love black licorice, but I know that most people don't. I think it's a love or hate kind of candy, hehe.
@biskies I get your point but I don't think the posts have been angry, a lot of resignation though, so I can see how that can be unhelpful in getting you excited for your box! I hope once people start getting them in their hands there will be more positives, it seems to be the general trend every month.
I think the fascinating thing about these boxes is the brand building. PS has focused itself a lot on being that luxe treat you give someone or yourself.
It was obvious to me that having the body wash be the first thing you notice in the box (size, color) might lower the perceived 'luxe feel' of it from a psychological POV so I'm really curious how they considered that on their end. I'd love a behind the scenes kind of look into how that all works.
I think the fascinating thing about these boxes is the brand building. PS has focused itself a lot on being that luxe treat you give someone or yourself.
It was obvious to me that having the body wash be the first thing you notice in the box (size, color) might lower the perceived 'luxe feel' of it from a psychological POV so I'm really curious how they considered that on their end. I'd love a behind the scenes kind of look into how that all works.
completely agree
