Originally Posted by iiweazle /img/forum/go_quote.gif Thanks for all of the help and suggestions everyone, I really do appreciate it. Its nice to get recs for drugstore brands, that way if I don't like it oh well, red is such a hard color for lipstick to get right. However with all of your help I think I'm well on my way. I completely agree! It took me a long time to find a red that worked with my skin tone. Good luck and let us know what you find.