Birchbox September 2013

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Quote: Originally Posted by SamhopeM /img/forum/go_quote.gif


Maybe it's just me but I'm far more likely to purchase something in full size if I can try out the correct shade in a trial size. If I don't like a color in something even if it's sample size I'm more likely to give it away without ever trying it and therefore not buying the full size. I like the idea of color profiles. Maybe not getting down to totally specific colors but it would be nice to have types of colors.
exactly.   It would be more like

nudes

browns

mauves

pink

red

anything goes! (orange, blue, yellow, green)

you get the drift.  

 
Quote: Originally Posted by biancardi /img/forum/go_quote.gif
  no, it isn't misguided.  I belong to several subs and they seem to pay attention to reviews and likes/dislikes.  I am not saying that I have to LOVE every item in my box, I don't with most boxes, but birchbox is now, for me at least, the worst one of all of the beauty boxes I sub to. 

I totally understand about the color choices.  However, I have received several bright red colors in this year alone for lip colors, and each one, I gave a negative review on the sample due to the color.  Obviously, they aren't paying attention to the reviews.

I am sure that there are thousands of ladies out there that would have loved to get the red lip colors I got and I would have loved to have received their lip colors.    A color palette is a good thing to put in the beauty profile.    It doesn't have to be extremely specific, but at least get a feel for their paying customer's likes and dislikes.  You say they don't know - yes, the way they have set up their beauty profile, they have no clue.  That is why I had suggested it to birchbox to add that in their beauty profile.  I am not looking for a perfect match, but I would like to enjoy ONE product out of my box, which until this month, hadn't been for several months.

Yes, there is the swap or gifting, but many of the samples from birchbox I would be ashamed to gift - those foil packets. 

Am I being overly critical?  Yes, I suppose so.  Birchbox was my first sub box ever and for the first few months, it was spot on.  Something changed this year.  I think they over extended their line and made up too many different combinations and they aren't really following the beauty profile very closely anymore.   I now subscribe to eco-emi (who doesn't even have a beauty profile, but manages to give samples that are universally flattering), ipsy (of which I am very happy with), blush (totally in love with) and I pick my own from green grab bag.

those subs just have better items in their boxes.   I do not know what happened to birchbox, but this year has been totally disappointing (a pen, really??? yes I got a pen as a "beauty item") and tiny foil samples.

You seem very happy with birchbox, and that is good.    But I will say something has changed with their service this past year and for me, it was not for the better.

it seems like running theme with your grievances is that you told/emailed them you didn't like something specifically and they didn't change it. they use their reviews as market research for the companies who send the products, not to tailor individual future boxes. it's just not possible. i don't know who else you sub to but i've seen the same complaints with ipsy, and it always boils down to it being a flaw in that it's practically impossible to specifically individualize boxes/bags for 100k+ subscribers.

i always think telling CS how you feel about something is good, especially for smaller businesses because for smaller businesses it can make a difference. but expecting a CS rep to be able to make major company changes to one individual's box, or change a company wide practice or procedure because you sent a few emails is a really really high expectation. i know that just from working for major brands and having to listen to people complain day in and day out, expecting me to be able to change something that was decided by someone i'll never meet with probably 50x my pay grade.

i used to complain a lot about birchbox and compare what i got with others. but when i changed my perspective and treated it how i treated it when i FIRST subbed (before i even knew about MUT) i found that i was a lot happier with just trying new things.

 
Quote: Originally Posted by SamhopeM /img/forum/go_quote.gif


Although it is more expensive than other subs might I recommend Wantable? They actually do let you dislike colors.

thank you!   If I get rid of birchbox, which it seems that I am moving in that direction (still holding out hope!!), I will put this one on my list....

 
Quote: Originally Posted by kawaiimeows /img/forum/go_quote.gif
 
it seems like running theme with your grievances is that you told/emailed them you didn't like something specifically and they didn't change it. they use their reviews as market research for the companies who send the products, not to tailor individual future boxes. it's just not possible. i don't know who else you sub to but i've seen the same complaints with ipsy, and it always boils down to it being a flaw in that it's practically impossible to specifically individualize boxes/bags for 100k+ subscribers.

i always think telling CS how you feel about something is good, especially for smaller businesses because for smaller businesses it can make a difference. but expecting a CS rep to be able to make major company changes to one individual's box, or change a company wide practice or procedure because you sent a few emails is a really really high expectation. i know that just from working for major brands and having to listen to people complain day in and day out, expecting me to be able to change something that was decided by someone i'll never meet with probably 50x my pay grade.
I think because I had high expectations with the beauty profile "re-do",  the outreach by birchbox (they ignored my first email and after I wrote on their blog about my displeasure, they immediately contacted me to work with me on my profile) and then to receive the CC cream was just plain infuriating.  I just got a BB cream in last month's box.

I didn't complain about getting benefit, even though I hate that makeup line and find it to be overpriced and substandard.  That is something I expect with beauty boxes - you don't get a choice over the makeup line.  However, I do feel this is just a circular argument we are having here.  I am NOT ASKING for the "perfect" box.   I don't know why you keep saying that I want  a specifically individualized box.  I want one that fits my beauty profile about 50% of the time.  That is why they have a beauty profile on us, right?  that is what they advertize.  Same with the reviews - if they aren't using them to help choose what items they are selecting for your box, then they NEED to stop telling their members that they are using those reviews in that manner.

I just would like to receive boxes that  I  like 50% of the time - not 100%..  That hasn't happened with me for a long, long time - not since last year - with birchbox.  I keep holding out hope that they will go back to the wonderful service they were before this year.

I know that other beauty subs seem  to pay attention to what you like/dislike.   At the very least, birchbox needs to stop sending same types of items (BB creams galore is their main theme) every month to the same member.  

I never once asked for the perfect box tailored to my specific desires.  All I want is a box where I like and can use 50% of the items over the course of my membership. 

 
I actually am very happy trying out new samples, btw.    I guess I am just fed up with all of the BB creams I have gotten from Birchbox this year - twice in a row these past 2 months, and prior to that, every other month was some type of BB/CC/tint cream thing.

I cannot wait for that "hot" trend to go away - lol

 
thank you!   If I get rid of birchbox, which it seems that I am moving in that direction (still holding out hope!!), I will put this one on my list....
Wantable is good because if you don't like what you get you can return it to them. It is also full sized products. I actually have two subs to them and have been happy with my boxes so far. Yesterday I got one with a shattered eyeshadow and CS got back to mr within twenty minutes to let me know they were sending a replacement. It will be here Monday! You can dislike certain products and intensities as well as formulations.
 
Quote: Originally Posted by SamhopeM /img/forum/go_quote.gif


Wantable is good because if you don't like what you get you can return it to them. It is also full sized products. I actually have two subs to them and have been happy with my boxes so far. Yesterday I got one with a shattered eyeshadow and CS got back to mr within twenty minutes to let me know they were sending a replacement. It will be here Monday! You can dislike certain products and intensities as well as formulations.

do members here post about wantable?  is there a group for it or it is under the general subscriptions?

I will definitely check this out - do you blog about your boxes?

 
do members here post about wantable?  is there a group for it or it is under the general subscriptions? I will definitely check this out - do you blog about your boxes?
It is under general. They have three different boxes to choose from. They actually have an account on here themselves too. I sort of blog about my boxes when I remember to lol.
 
thanks samhopem - I will check it out.  I took a look at their beauty profile and that was very impressive!
 

 
When will we be able to see all the boxes by number? Does anybody know how many variations there are this month? My box weighs .5990 and is suppose to arrive on the 12th. I am hoping I get it by at least the 11th. I have liked what I have seen so far that people have gotten. Hoping for the green nail polish, but all the colors look pretty.

 
Quote: Originally Posted by linda37027 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
  When will we be able to see all the boxes by number? Does anybody know how many variations there are this month? My box weighs .5990 and is suppose to arrive on the 12th. I am hoping I get it by at least the 11th. I have liked what I have seen so far that people have gotten. Hoping for the green nail polish, but all the colors look pretty.

probably on or around the tenth when they start uploading box variations and updating profiles.

 
Quote: Originally Posted by kawaiimeows /img/forum/go_quote.gif
 
probably on or around the tenth when they start uploading box variations and updating profiles.

We should have an FAQ thread or something to direct newcomers to. Unless we already have that thread. You can just ignore me, in that case. We always get asked about when the box pages will update, how you can check your box number, what your box weight is, etc., so I think it'd be super helpful. 

 
Quote: Originally Posted by queenofperil /img/forum/go_quote.gif
 
We should have an FAQ thread or something to direct newcomers to. Unless we already have that thread. You can just ignore me, in that case. We always get asked about when the box pages will update, how you can check your box number, what your box weight is, etc., so I think it'd be super helpful. 

hmmmm that's a really good idea. as far as i know that doesn't exist, but then again i've been preoccupied by IRL things so i don't remember everything we have. if we could pin a general FAQ to the the top of the birchbox group that would be awesome, so i'll look in to it!

 
Quote: Originally Posted by queenofperil /img/forum/go_quote.gif
 
We should have an FAQ thread or something to direct newcomers to. Unless we already have that thread. You can just ignore me, in that case. We always get asked about when the box pages will update, how you can check your box number, what your box weight is, etc., so I think it'd be super helpful. 

i think that every month! i think there is one but it gets buried under the monthly threads, other posts, etc.

 
Just got my box!  The weight was 0.6700.  I think this is one of my favorite boxes so far and I have been subscribed since May 2012.  Very happy with it, it's all things I will use and am excited to try...can't wait to see what comes in my 2nd box! 
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Amika Bombshell Blowout Spray 2oz
Caudalie Hand and Nail Cream 1oz
Elizabeth Arden Beautiful Color Luminous Lip Gloss in Precious Petal 4ml
Voesh New York Premium Manicure Hand Mask (1/pair)
Ruffian Nail Lacquer in Hedge Fund 5ml



Sorry you can't see the nail polish color...it's the green one.
 
Quote: Originally Posted by Adrigirl81 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
  Just got my box!  The weight was 0.6700.  I think this is one of my favorite boxes so far and I have been subscribed since May 2012.  Very happy with it, it's all things I will use and am excited to try...can't wait to see what comes in my 2nd box! 
biggrin.gif


Amika Bombshell Blowout Spray 2oz
Caudalie Hand and Nail Cream 1oz
Elizabeth Arden Beautiful Color Luminous Lip Gloss in Precious Petal 4ml
Voesh New York Premium Manicure Hand Mask (1/pair)
Ruffian Nail Lacquer in Hedge Fund 5ml



Sorry you can't see the nail polish color...it's the green one.
These sample sizes are amazing! I don't even need lip gloss and I'm jealous!

 
Quote: Originally Posted by kawaiimeows /img/forum/go_quote.gif
 
hmmmm that's a really good idea. as far as i know that doesn't exist, but then again i've been preoccupied by IRL things so i don't remember everything we have. if we could pin a general FAQ to the the top of the birchbox group that would be awesome, so i'll look in to it!

*Zoidberg voice* Hooray! I'm helpful!

Quote: Originally Posted by Adrigirl81 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
  Just got my box!  The weight was 0.6700.  I think this is one of my favorite boxes so far and I have been subscribed since May 2012.  Very happy with it, it's all things I will use and am excited to try...can't wait to see what comes in my 2nd box! 
biggrin.gif


Amika Bombshell Blowout Spray 2oz
Caudalie Hand and Nail Cream 1oz
Elizabeth Arden Beautiful Color Luminous Lip Gloss in Precious Petal 4ml
Voesh New York Premium Manicure Hand Mask (1/pair)
Ruffian Nail Lacquer in Hedge Fund 5ml



Sorry you can't see the nail polish color...it's the green one.

Daaaaaaamn. Those are really good sizes. Like, really good. I would not hate getting that box. 

 
Quote: Originally Posted by Adrigirl81 /img/forum/go_quote.gif
  Just got my box!  The weight was 0.6700.  I think this is one of my favorite boxes so far and I have been subscribed since May 2012.  Very happy with it, it's all things I will use and am excited to try...can't wait to see what comes in my 2nd box! 
biggrin.gif


Amika Bombshell Blowout Spray 2oz
Caudalie Hand and Nail Cream 1oz
Elizabeth Arden Beautiful Color Luminous Lip Gloss in Precious Petal 4ml
Voesh New York Premium Manicure Hand Mask (1/pair)
Ruffian Nail Lacquer in Hedge Fund 5ml



Sorry you can't see the nail polish color...it's the green one.

Oh I would love to get that box!  I want to try all of it! 

 
I'm on my phone, so editing is a royal pain in the ass, but... Since when did they say that feedback and reviews were used to influence box contents? I thought they specifically said that they were *not* tied. If they were, I would never receive perfume samples, and we all know how trying to get away from those things goes.

 

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