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Originally Posted by dawallewein /img/forum/go_quote.gif

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....What?? Huh??? ...Oh, sorry...I was napping.  Just hangin' out here STILL waiting for my Birchbox to come...
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Me too.
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Originally Posted by MyriadVoices 

Wow, I don't think I deserve the rudeness or the foul language. I run a business of my own, and I've learned a lot I didn't know before getting involved in this side of things. I was only trying to help others, including (but not exclusively) yourself, have a better perspective of how it works from the other side.

I agree! Let's all just chill out and try to respect each other. This is a beauty forum where we discuss Birchbox, not the merits of profit margins. Whatever your thinking you do NOT have the right to speak to any of us that way.

 
dear dear sweeties...  lets all take a breath.. lets remember what we are all here to do.. talk about our BB's..  i know tensions got high... . buts lets all chill and get along.. i think what keeps us together as a group is respect..  so lets just <3 each other. :) /emoticons/[email protected] 2x" width="20" height="20" />

 
Originally Posted by gypsiemagic /img/forum/go_quote.gif

Ha, okay from an account that has 1 post. Like I can't tell who make this account. People who make second accounts to call people anonymously out are the trolls.

I stand by my words, and everything I said was in relation to topics discussed through out all three thousand posts, and if I put the entire exchange into one thread and explained what I meant, you would see it was not as much of a personal attack as it was general displeasure with the exorbitant prices 

I agree it is easy to misconstrue tone and intent in text based conversations, I will watch my words and make it explicitly clear what I mean in cases where things can be taken multiple ways :) /emoticons/[email protected] 2x" width="20" height="20" /> 

Consider this an apology. 

Originally Posted by americanclassic /img/forum/go_quote.gif

^ lol I'm doing the same, cashing in my points and cancelling. it's definitely worth it for people who have discovered new brands and found products they love, but after a year and $100 I didn't really gain much. I mean there were products I enjoyed trying, but nothing I discovered and loved.

did you really make an account a couple minutes ago, just to add append to some series of replies by random users? for personal attacks, calling people "TROLLS" isn't really the high road. nor is making a separate account to state something.
For the record, I am not ashamed to speak for myself and would not make a separate account to make a comment. I also am not in the habit of calling people trolls or other names. (I am, of course, assuming this is the implication.) I admit, I did notice this poster had only one post and thought it was an interesting way to debut as well. I also am sure that many will choose not to believe that I am being honest here, but I obviously have no way to prove otherwise, so I guess I will have to deal with that. I would truthfully probably assume the same if I were looking in from the outside.

That being said, gypsiemagic, I do see your point, and I don't think it's wrong that we disagree. I do feel that your posts were unnecessarily hostile toward me personally, but as you stated, it is easy to misconstrue tone. As I said, there were many things I didn't know before going into business. My intention was merely to inform, not to condescend or otherwise generate hostility. I apologize if that was the impression given.

I would be happy if the conversation did not continue further. I apologize to the community for unintentionally turning this thread ugly. Maybe we can turn it back around? Where's Jannie with the late-night hyper commentary?

 
Originally Posted by lechatonrose /img/forum/go_quote.gif

Throw them in a lingerie bag every once in a while. The dryer isn't the best for elastics but it does clean and shrink the elastics to look like new again.
At first I thought this said "throw in a lingerie item every once in a while." THAT would certainly make BB more interesting!

 
Has anyone used the Eve Lom cleanser yet? I have combination skin that I maintain with a combo of Proactiv, Bare Minerals and freaking prayer. I consider my face a delicate eco system that I do not want to disturb. That said I loved the DDF cleanser I got a few months ago and added it into the mix. It gave me a nice glow and not one pimple (mind blown) I have heard amazing things about the Eve Lom but if it makes me break out I will cry goopy tears of rage. I try to try everything in my Birchbox, unless I trade it with my mom for something else. My mind is open I just want to know what I am in for.

Also the Kusmi Euphoria tea is so good! I could drink it all day. I would have to live in the bathroom, but it would be worth it.

 
Originally Posted by prachisrk /img/forum/go_quote.gif

I got my second box. I got different items than what showed on my page. I was supposed to get box #22 but not sure which # the one I got was.

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This is Box #30
 
Originally Posted by lechatonrose /img/forum/go_quote.gif

I think a lot of us are disappointed with the sample sizes. I have a box 3 (not delivered yet) and a box 23. That being said MOST of the boxes are of decidedly higher value than the $10 we've paid for. The ones that are not *cough* box 3 *cough* are still worth the $10, especially when you take shipping in consideration. Even less than satisfactory shipping.  And the drunk turtles are cute on one's doorstep. 

Yes, the boxes with higher value are sometimes tiny vials of expensive products, but a lot of us would never spend $100 just to try something. For me that's part of the fun of birchbox. Some things I've tried I would have never tried on my own or even have access to the brands. They are still fulfilling  that part of the service for me. And while it's disappointing that I've still yet to get a beauty blender, there are full size products in some of the boxes. I wasn't lucky this month, but maybe next month I will be. That has always been an issue with us on the boards. That being said, there does seem to be an increase of the packets. Those are disappointing to the consumer and I'm not sure why companies still use them since so many of us file those away and never get around to trying the product they spent money on handing out for free. I wish birchbox would only send a packet or vial of perfume per box, as receiving a box full of those stupid things can be irritating. It might be worth $13, but it doesn't feel like it. 

Even still, I was disappointed when I opened up my box 23 and saw all the tiny products. I didn't realize that the mox lip lipbutter was half of the full size because it's fairly tiny. I was lucky that they changed the flavors of tea sent, because last month I was sent tea on my other account and had a fairly bad allergic reaction. I'm still glad that they send food and tea as extras because it has introduced me to some new staples (mightyleaf, zhena, kind bars), as well as reunited me with some old loves (sweet riot and luna bars). As long as they aren't replacing one of our samples I don't feel that it's an issue, although I do wish they'd remove the peanut samples. While I'm not allergic it's very common and shouldn't be included.

I guess what I'm trying to say, despite my rambling, is that I think we're increasing each others frustrations. We've always been upset with some of these problems that seem to be part of the risk with this type of service. Some members have even expressed that they were always happy with their boxes before they came on here and were influenced by other's boxes and opinions. I'm not saying that there aren't some issues, but I think we're gradually making them bigger than they are. Even billing has come under fire lately when they have always stated that we'd be billed around the 1st of the month and they'd try to ship by the 10th. The shipping is messed up and we're turning it into two issues. 
i dont like to stir the pot.. but i agree.. i cant remember the name of the sub service, but i know there is one where you pick your own samples.. otherwise, if you do BB, knowing its all a gamble, its kinda hard to complain too much.. we cant expect BB to curtail 100% to each of our needs..  and like it was mentioned, alot of the fun is to try things we wouldnt have normally thought we would like.. i know for a FACT, about half of what i have bought on BB, are items i thought i would hate in my box.. just my 2 cents. take it as you will.....

 
Originally Posted by meetcutecrystal /img/forum/go_quote.gif

Has anyone used the Eve Lom cleanser yet? I have combination skin that I maintain with a combo of Proactiv, Bare Minerals and freaking prayer. I consider my face a delicate eco system that I do not want to disturb. That said I loved the DDF cleanser I got a few months ago and added it into the mix. It gave me a nice glow and not one pimple (mind blown) I have heard amazing things about the Eve Lom but if it makes me break out I will cry goopy tears of rage. I try to try everything in my Birchbox, unless I trade it with my mom for something else. My mind is open I just want to know what I am in for.

Also the Kusmi Euphoria tea is so good! I could drink it all day. I would have to live in the bathroom, but it would be worth it.
i tried it w the cloth last night.. it didnt agree w my combo skin.. just my take on it.. i woke up w 3 pimples on my chin.. and that isnt like me..

 
that's very true--and for a lot of people, it is worth it if they discover something great. but if you think about cost in terms of value to you, that really depends on each person (e.g. accessibility to items). they probably pay a hefty bulk fee to offer free shipping, but per box shipping costs very little for them. so if shipping costs very little--and the samples in someone's box were all free-size that they themselves essentially got for almost nothing--I see the $10 on our part as less of a value.

you could objectively measure the worth of a freebie-size sample you'd find anywhere like Sephora, by volume compared to the full version, but they're essentially free advertising tools, and birchbox didn't pay much if anything. like, one of my past boxes was a $6 razor and some free samples. The list price of the razor was like $10, but I could get it on amazon for much cheaper with free shipping. So to me, that box wasn't worth much (not to mention I have two razors--lolol who doesn't own a razor?). but if you measured like, the cost of a perfume sample and everything, and the list price of the razor, it's definitely over $10. just me personally, I haven't discovered anything great in the year I've subbed. some boxes were really fun to try--and that was definitely worth the money for me--but in others there was essentially nothing to try.

Originally Posted by lechatonrose /img/forum/go_quote.gif

I think a lot of us are disappointed with the sample sizes. I have a box 3 (not delivered yet) and a box 23. That being said MOST of the boxes are of decidedly higher value than the $10 we've paid for. The ones that are not *cough* box 3 *cough* are still worth the $10, especially when you take shipping in consideration. Even less than satisfactory shipping.  And the drunk turtles are cute on one's doorstep. 
 
Originally Posted by MyriadVoices /img/forum/go_quote.gif


At first I thought this said "throw in a lingerie item every once in a while." THAT would certainly make BB more interesting!
where is the like button on here? lol

 
Originally Posted by lechatonrose /img/forum/go_quote.gif

Throw them in a lingerie bag every once in a while. The dryer isn't the best for elastics but it does clean and shrink the elastics to look like new again.
is this like a magical trick I have never heard of before? I use mine for a couple weeks and they get kinda sketchy looking (my ends don't fray, I seal them) but just generally fugly.

Thankfully I still have that silly laundry soap for delicates Birchbox sent in last years october box (LOL). When I get enough sketchy ones I will use that and wash em. 

Also for those who want to get even craftier, the elastics take really well to hair dye, I accidentally used a nude on while washing out some pink peek a boos I was putting in, it made a really pretty tie die pattern.

 
Originally Posted by MyriadVoices /img/forum/go_quote.gif




For the record, I am not ashamed to speak for myself and would not make a separate account to make a comment. I also am not in the habit of calling people trolls or other names. (I am, of course, assuming this is the implication.) I admit, I did notice this poster had only one post and thought it was an interesting way to debut as well. I also am sure that many will choose not to believe that I am being honest here, but I obviously have no way to prove otherwise, so I guess I will have to deal with that. I would truthfully probably assume the same if I were looking in from the outside.

That being said, gypsiemagic, I do see your point, and I don't think it's wrong that we disagree. I do feel that your posts were unnecessarily hostile toward me personally, but as you stated, it is easy to misconstrue tone. As I said, there were many things I didn't know before going into business. My intention was merely to inform, not to condescend or otherwise generate hostility. I apologize if that was the impression given.

I would be happy if the conversation did not continue further. I apologize to the community for unintentionally turning this thread ugly. Maybe we can turn it back around? Where's Jannie with the late-night hyper commentary?
Okie, no hard feelings, though there have been other duplicate account holders ousted by Zadi, they can check the IP address where you made the account from. I'll choose to believe you in this case, and guess there is just an anonymous troll amongst us :p /emoticons/[email protected] 2x" width="20" height="20" />

 
I'll agree with lechatonrose that yes, there are issues with Birchbox, but feel our commentary on any subject good or bad can blow it up and snowball it into something more. I like the idea of limiting foils or tiny samples to one product per box. I would be fine with that. In regards to the insults and whatnot, sometimes the use of profanity sets the comment over the edge. Tone and use of words can be mistrued. It's not the same as a regular conversation, where you can hear and see the people. I am a person who has to double check before I post because I normally can come across bluntly and like to "color" my language, which is offensive to some. I've still come across as biting and offensive at times, though. We can all at least censure ourselves so to still be respectful, whether or not we have conflicting thoughts and ideas. Concerning the new account commentary, we don't know that the person is a regular member adding an account or maybe one of the many lurkers. They could be a troll themselves. Let's ignore and see if they stick around. That'll be a testament to what or who they really may be.

 
Originally Posted by gypsiemagic /img/forum/go_quote.gif

Okie, no hard feelings, though there have been other duplicate account holders ousted by Zadi, they can check the IP address where you made the account from. I'll choose to believe you in this case, and guess there is just an anonymous troll amongst us :p /emoticons/[email protected] 2x" width="20" height="20" />
Good point with the IPs; wish I knew how to check that! Thank you for choosing to believe me (not sure I would if I weren't me!).

I really appreciate when folks use their own picture for their avatar. I noticed recently some users doing this and it positively impacted how I felt about their posts, so I copied. I'm typically very private in my online presence, but I wanted to encourage others to do the same by my example, as others did unknowingly for me.

[Edited for clarity.]

 
definitely didn't intend to pinpoint anyone, I was just calling out the hypocrisy of whomever it was that felt the need to comment. I wasn't really following that whole side conversation anyway, and I'm sure it wasn't you. but whoever it was, was either trolling on the fact that they were trolling by name-calling 'trolls', or they were just being silly :p /emoticons/[email protected] 2x" width="20" height="20" />

Originally Posted by MyriadVoices /img/forum/go_quote.gif

 I admit, I did notice this poster had only one post and thought it was an interesting way to debut as well. I also am sure that many will choose not to believe that I am being honest here, but I obviously have no way to prove otherwise, so I guess I will have to deal with that. I would truthfully probably assume the same if I were looking in from the outside.
lol I'm just a suuper private person. I don't even like the privacy features on fb :p /emoticons/[email protected] 2x" width="20" height="20" />.

Quote: Originally Posted by MyriadVoices /img/forum/go_quote.gif

I started feeling like it's so much more open and honest to have someone's real face next to their commentary.

 

 
Originally Posted by meetcutecrystal /img/forum/go_quote.gif

Did you like the cloth? Was it a good exfoliator? Maybe I will skip the cleanser. I have no use for a pimply chin at 30.
i like the cloth.. i used it tonight with my reg cleanser...  try it..  i dont think the cloth will hurt..  nor will the cleanser for that matter.. i dont have sensitive skin, but there are some products that affect me and not others..  who knows...............

 

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