Birchbox February 2014 (SPOILERS)

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  I got a welcome box for Feb in addition to my regular box because I gifted myself a subscription.  It's been a week since I've gotten it and the welcome box is not posted on my birchbox account so I can't review the items for points.  Is that normal?
They used to post it to accounts to review for points, but I don't believe they do anymore, my moms never posted on her gift accounts, so she got 100 points from a 3 month gift sub.

 
Well, my original thought to be lost box arrived. This is my first box so ipsy is my reference point. I have to say that even though I knew what I was getting I didn't appreciate how tiny it would all be in person. I can't believe I'm saying this but it definitely wasn't worth $10. A teeny tiny polish that did nothing when I tried it (over another color or alone), one little bath powder, a cardboard hair oil, one single clothing deodorizer and the benefit cream. Only the latter looks good for more than one use (well, the deodorant cloth is reusable but I doubt more than once; glad I ordered the full size set). I've gotten larger foil samples free in the mail from Pantene. Is this just an off month? I've been with ipsy almost a year and always get one or two full size products consistently. For the same price. And aren't new subscribers supposed to get a welcome box? I sure didn't. I might stick around one more month since I actually liked my chosen products but if I get itty bitty samples again, I'll call it good.

 
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  They used to post it to accounts to review for points, but I don't believe they do anymore, my moms never posted on her gift accounts, so she got 100 points from a 3 month gift sub.
If you e-mail them, they will post it.

 
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  If you e-mail them, they will post it.
good to know! hers is long gone but i'll definitely make note of it in the future when i gift subs again!

 
Apparently BB is all out of Feb boxes. They just emailed me back that they can't replace my Feb Box so they're not charging me for March AND gave me 100 points. Which is MORE than generous! (is it selfish of me to hope that the box may stil find its way out of newgistics hell and come to me? I really wanted to try the caudalie water!)

 
Apparently BB is all out of Feb boxes. They just emailed me back that they can't replace my Feb Box so they're not charging me for March AND gave me 100 points. Which is MORE than generous! (is it selfish of me to hope that the box may stil find its way out of newgistics hell and come to me? I really wanted to try the caudalie water!)
Oh no! What a bummer! I really hope that your box finds it way to you somehow, I'd hate to hear a drop of Caudalie going to waste :( /emoticons/[email protected] 2x" width="20" height="20" />
 
I got that box on my punishment box account (my original one that I cancelled in November). It's a nice box but the only things I haven't tried are the opi polish and the tea. I have gotten the hello perfume in all three boxes this month. I wish I got the Malibu perfume instead. I love juicy couture.
Ooh, I love Hello! Wish I had gotten that instead of the Joan Vass scent. I usually groan when I get perfumes (rarely use or like) and mascara (never use) but Hello is the one scent I've liked from samples. Go-go Birch Box!
 
I actually enjoyed the Hello scent, but I don't wear perfume maybe once or twice a year. I think my '1st birch box will be used to store all the perfume samples I'll pass down to my girls. Using my 1st. Birchbox, it's fun to try all the samples, did anyone else think the Truffle Serum was to sticky on your skin. (Maybe I used to much) I'm So used to using Tarte's maracuja oil, I'm not sure any things going to top the way it makes my skin feel and with out leaving an oily feeling. I'm still using the small bottle of that I got for Christmas.

 
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I got that box on my punishment box account (my original one that I cancelled in November). It's a nice box but the only things I haven't tried are the opi polish and the tea. I have gotten the hello perfume in all three boxes this month. I wish I got the Malibu perfume instead. I love juicy couture.
Aww, I would have been super happy to have received three hello perfume samples - I love Hello so much that I have the full size! :D /emoticons/[email protected] 2x" width="20" height="20" /> Hopefully you'll get better boxes next month!

 
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Well, my original thought to be lost box arrived. This is my first box so ipsy is my reference point. I have to say that even though I knew what I was getting I didn't appreciate how tiny it would all be in person. I can't believe I'm saying this but it definitely wasn't worth $10. A teeny tiny polish that did nothing when I tried it (over another color or alone), one little bath powder, a cardboard hair oil, one single clothing deodorizer and the benefit cream. Only the latter looks good for more than one use (well, the deodorant cloth is reusable but I doubt more than once; glad I ordered the full size set). I've gotten larger foil samples free in the mail from Pantene. Is this just an off month? I've been with ipsy almost a year and always get one or two full size products consistently. For the same price. And aren't new subscribers supposed to get a welcome box? I sure didn't. I might stick around one more month since I actually liked my chosen products but if I get itty bitty samples again, I'll call it good.
If you're looking for a subscription box that sends ipsy-sized items, you're not going to find it here.  Birchbox and ipsy seem to have completely different goals:  Ipsy seems to focus on building brand loyalty so you go buy more NYX blush/Zoya polish/Yaby eye shadow/Elizabeth Mott whatever.  Birchbox wants you to fall in love with a specific sample that you will then go back to their store and buy in a full-sized version.  If you're looking for a sub that will build your makeup bag/skincare regimen/etc. by giving you the product, Birchbox is not that sub.  It wants to inform your decision-making to help you decide on the right product to go back and buy.

But if you want just enough of a certain hair oil/eye cream/exfoliator to decide whether you like it, Birchbox usually delivers, and that's why I canceled ipsy and keep renewing my annual Birchbox sub:  I am in fact just looking for samples of sufficient size to try things a few times so I can decide whether I like it or not.  I very specifically do *not* want another box full of things I have received, tried a few times, decided I hated, and can't bring myself to throw out because it's a waste of a perfectly good product even though it's not a good product *for me*.  And I get much groovier and fancier products from Birchbox than ipsy.  There may be some crossover (Coastal Scents), but Birchbox gets a lot of neat indie/niche products that you're not likely to find anywhere else except funky indie boutiques (if you're lucky), like AYRES and Mox Botanicals.  They may send out a Chapstick or Larabar once in a while, but they will also send out things you quickly realize you simply cannot live without even though you never knew they existed before, like Beauty Protector leave-in hair treatment.

As a side note, that single packet of bath powder?  If it's Mox Botanicals, one of the aforementioned indie products, a four-pack sells for $22, and a two-pack sells for $12, so that's a $5.50-$6 value right there.  The clothing deodorizer pad (and it *is* reusable, but I forget how many uses) is $18 for six, so there's $3.  So between just those two items, that's a $9 value, and if I recall correctly, the eye cream is 0.1 oz, which is a fifth of the full size, so add another $6 (rounding down), so without the hair oil and the polish, the box value is now $15.  They might not be full-sized products, but the value is there.  They're not charging you ten bucks and sending out a box worth five dollars when you calculate the retail value, and that's ignoring the hair oil (which would have lasted me four days on my thick, fine, shoulder-length hair if I hadn't decided to try it as a pre-shampoo treatment tonight.  Verdict:  OMG HAIR SO SOFT!) and nail polish (it might be tiny, but, again, their goal is to make you want to go back and *buy the full size*.  It might do nothing for you color-wise, but that's the point of sampling:  To see if it works for you.  Now you know, and now you can walk on by that display in Ulta when it shows up this spring.  But a tiny nail polish?  I rarely use the same color twice in one month, so tiny nail polishes don't bother me one bit aside from my hands sometimes hating the caps).

Now the cost:  The box costs $10, but if you go in and give feedback on those items, you get ten points -- or the equivalent of a dollar -- back.  So five feedback reviews (not the same as regular reviews, which you do *not* get points on) would equal five dollars (although you can only cash them out in hundred-point/ten-dollar increments), which would mean the box actually cost five dollars, or a buck a sample, since they basically refunded you half the cost of the box via those points.  Points expire after a year, which means you can usually save six hundred points (or more, especially if you buy something or your monthly box gets screwed up) over the course of a year and get sixty dollars' worth of whatever you want in their store for free. 

Birchbox probably requires a rejiggering of how you perceive it as a subscription, and if you look at it as another ipsy, you're not going to be happy just like I wasn't happy with ipsy because I was looking for more of a Birchbox experience, and they kept sending me the same damned things (black liquid eyeliner, mascara, and red lipstick.  I don't wear the first two, and I already had half a dozen of the last one that I rarely used even before I started getting a flood of them from ipsy) month after month.  If you look at it as five bucks a month for five samples, you're going to be much, much happier.  If you get an annual subscription, the per-box cost comes down to something ridiculous like under $3 a box after accounting for points because you get one month for free *and* 110 points, which makes it even easier to shrug and dismiss a bad month.

 
[@]meaganola[/@] *claps* couldn't have said it better myself! This is why I've stuck around with BB for so long even after having a few dud boxes!

 
@meaganola that was one of the best descriptions of BB I have ever seen!  Well done!  I love my BB because it lets me try so many different products--and many of the items I have sampled I have purchased.  It does require a shift of mindset, but once you get into using the codes and points, it is unbeatable!

 
YES.  I got this stuff in my BB when it first came out (One year ago! Wow!) and I still remember what a pain it was getting the spray started! I got a glass of hot water, unscrewed the top, stuck it in the glass of hot water, and pumped the spray til it started spraying the water through (and it took awhile!) then I stuck the top back in the bottle and sprayed about 10 pumps til the conditioner came through instead of water.  You can tell by smell/consistency (the spray is thicker and smells like vanilla tropical awesomeness).  Several of your first sprays will be thinner/more watery, of course, but then you won't have issues with the pump stopping up.   My personal theory is the liquid is just a bit too thick to go through a "dry" sprayer, but if you prime it with water, then it works.  Who knows?  Hope this helps though! 
Thank you so much! Off to try this!
 
@meaganola well said. i'm sick of the ipsy comparisons. every month i check out the ipsy tags on instagram and its the same five products being featured each month, and most of them are just low end PLMs, which might be fine for some, but that's not why i'm here.

 
Thanks, @usofjessamerica and @puppymomofthree!  Once I started thinking of these boxes as a new kind of marketing/advertising instead of as a way to get *stuff*, everything just slid into place.  The earlier you adopt this mindset, the easier it is to deal with the crappier boxes:  The product companies' advertising budgets were cut back, so the pickings were slim.  I think that might actually be why the spring/summer boxes are better.  I noticed the other day that my winter boxes tend to be crappy, but then once May rolls around, they're great, and I have a theory:  At that time of the year, companies are farther away from the holidays when they don't really need to advertise as much because everyone is already flocking to the stores to buy things like crazy, but in the spring/summer when people aren't really in the mood to stay inside and shop, they have to figure out a way to get our money, so they kind of have to send out better samples so we are willing to take time out of our day and buy/order those items.

Oh, and someone waaaay back was saying something like it seemed weird that Birchbox was sending out so many hair oils in such a short period of time.  Back in the '80s, hair mousse was the newest major deal, and whenever a hair care company gave out samples of their stuff, it always seemed like it was an endless parade of mousse (I always gave mine to my mom because even back in the '80s and the era of spiral perms, mousse rakes, and mall hair, I refused to use hair styling product).  I think hair oil/serum is just the Big Thing right now, and every company on the face of the planet is trying to get their own piece of the marketplace, and sampling is their best chance at success.

 
Well said @meaganola !  I would never have found my HG bb cream without sampling it through Birchbox.  At $40, I would have never bought it without trying a sample and I doubt the brand would have come in my Ipsy bag.  With points it was $10 bucks in the BB store.  It doesn't get better than that.   

 
@meaganola  that was one of the best descriptions of BB I have ever seen!  Well done!  I love my BB because it lets me try so many different products--and many of the items I have sampled I have purchased.  It does require a shift of mindset, but once you get into using the codes and points, it is unbeatable!
I agree. Meganola explained it perfectly. Ipsy and Birchbox are very different. I canceled Ipsy for the same reason Meganola did and got a third Birchbox sub. It's great that there are so many beauty subs out there so you can find ones that best suit you. I find I use about 80% of what I get from BB each month. I was only using 20-40% from Ipsy although there have been months I didn't use anything. It's all a matter of personal preference.
 
If you're looking for a subscription box that sends ipsy-sized items, you're not going to find it here.  Birchbox and ipsy seem to have completely different goals:  Ipsy seems to focus on building brand loyalty so you go buy more NYX blush/Zoya polish/Yaby eye shadow/Elizabeth Mott whatever.  Birchbox wants you to fall in love with a specific sample that you will then go back to their store and buy in a full-sized version.  If you're looking for a sub that will build your makeup bag/skincare regimen/etc. by giving you the product, Birchbox is not that sub.  It wants to inform your decision-making to help you decide on the right product to go back and buy. But if you want just enough of a certain hair oil/eye cream/exfoliator to decide whether you like it, Birchbox usually delivers, and that's why I canceled ipsy and keep renewing my annual Birchbox sub:  I am in fact just looking for samples of sufficient size to try things a few times so I can decide whether I like it or not.  I very specifically do *not* want another box full of things I have received, tried a few times, decided I hated, and can't bring myself to throw out because it's a waste of a perfectly good product even though it's not a good product *for me*.  And I get much groovier and fancier products from Birchbox than ipsy.  There may be some crossover (Coastal Scents), but Birchbox gets a lot of neat indie/niche products that you're not likely to find anywhere else except funky indie boutiques (if you're lucky), like AYRES and Mox Botanicals.  They may send out a Chapstick or Larabar once in a while, but they will also send out things you quickly realize you simply cannot live without even though you never knew they existed before, like Beauty Protector leave-in hair treatment. As a side note, that single packet of bath powder?  If it's Mox Botanicals, one of the aforementioned indie products, a four-pack sells for $22, and a two-pack sells for $12, so that's a $5.50-$6 value right there.  The clothing deodorizer pad (and it *is* reusable, but I forget how many uses) is $18 for six, so there's $3.  So between just those two items, that's a $9 value, and if I recall correctly, the eye cream is 0.1 oz, which is a fifth of the full size, so add another $6 (rounding down), so without the hair oil and the polish, the box value is now $15.  They might not be full-sized products, but the value is there.  They're not charging you ten bucks and sending out a box worth five dollars when you calculate the retail value, and that's ignoring the hair oil (which would have lasted me four days on my thick, fine, shoulder-length hair if I hadn't decided to try it as a pre-shampoo treatment tonight.  Verdict:  OMG HAIR SO SOFT!) and nail polish (it might be tiny, but, again, their goal is to make you want to go back and *buy the full size*.  It might do nothing for you color-wise, but that's the point of sampling:  To see if it works for you.  Now you know, and now you can walk on by that display in Ulta when it shows up this spring.  But a tiny nail polish?  I rarely use the same color twice in one month, so tiny nail polishes don't bother me one bit aside from my hands sometimes hating the caps). Now the cost:  The box costs $10, but if you go in and give feedback on those items, you get ten points -- or the equivalent of a dollar -- back.  So five feedback reviews (not the same as regular reviews, which you do *not* get points on) would equal five dollars (although you can only cash them out in hundred-point/ten-dollar increments), which would mean the box actually cost five dollars, or a buck a sample, since they basically refunded you half the cost of the box via those points.  Points expire after a year, which means you can usually save six hundred points (or more, especially if you buy something or your monthly box gets screwed up) over the course of a year and get sixty dollars' worth of whatever you want in their store for free.  Birchbox probably requires a rejiggering of how you perceive it as a subscription, and if you look at it as another ipsy, you're not going to be happy just like I wasn't happy with ipsy because I was looking for more of a Birchbox experience, and they kept sending me the same damned things (black liquid eyeliner, mascara, and red lipstick.  I don't wear the first two, and I already had half a dozen of the last one that I rarely used even before I started getting a flood of them from ipsy) month after month.  If you look at it as five bucks a month for five samples, you're going to be much, much happier.  If you get an annual subscription, the per-box cost comes down to something ridiculous like under $3 a box after accounting for points because you get one month for free *and* 110 points, which makes it even easier to shrug and dismiss a bad month.
Value is purely subjective. It isn't there for me. It's great if you like it. If I have to calculate it up and factor in reviews to earn points, that's more effort than I want to expend. I like shopping at Birchbox in general and order full size items often. The sub is disappointing to me. There's no way I'd sign up for a year of small things I get free in monthly online beauty orders already. The little hair oil wouldn't come close to handling my waist length thick hair, and that's true of most foil hair samples. Then again, I hate foil packets in general because they're rarely sufficient to give an idea whether you like something or not. The Moxy is smaller than the full size, not just in total sachets. If you read the reviews the majority complain about there not being enough product to work in a normal size bathtub. That to me makes it a not very useful sample since I can't tell whether I'd want to buy more/full size. I've never hated anything from ipsy so I've never had the urge to throw anything away. It would be nice though when you do like something to have a full size. At least one product anyway. I change polish daily so the OPI was barely enough to do fingers and toes (hence my sub to Julep. Considering the price point between Zoya and OPI they're fairly comparable (retail) but the Zoya in the ipsy bag was full size, for the same price. Birchbox bills itself as deluxe samples. I'm a deluxe sample hoarder, lol, so I generally know what to expect from deluxe descriptions. Nothing in this box was deluxe size. Maybe it's an off month, which is why I asked that question and said I'd be willing to stick it out another month. But if I have to talk myself into being happy about it then it's probably not for me. It's why I said I couldn't believe I was saying it wasn't worth $10 since I regularly defend ipsy to haters who say it isn't worth $10. I'm definitely not hating since, as I said, I liked the items themselves but I do think they can do a better job of obtaining truly deluxe size samples. I had the Moxy in my cart but after testing it tonight, I can't tell whether it's worth spending $12 since I couldn't smell anything, or feel anything. I know I wasn't alone in being disappointed with the very small offerings this month, even among longtime subscribers. But it's helpful to know this is generally what to expect. It definitely helps to shape my expectations. So thank you for sharing all of that with me. I do appreciate it. I think I'll be sticking to regular shopping on Birchbox and not bother with the sub. Perhaps I'll just redirect the $10 to my full size item purchases. I think that's what I'll tell hubby-that I get a $10 off coupon every month!
 
I wouldn't know what to buy from the birchbox shop if it weren't from the samples...that's why its a discovery service. And theres a strong correlation between what they sample and what they sell in the shop. Especially since they carry a lot of unique brands.

 

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