I have been using skinb iology copper peptides for years now. I tried the super cop thing once, and it burned horribly and I never used it again. I think it and the newer one are too concentrated, really. I use the trireduction with retionol for my body (but not very often cuz a) its expensive and B) im lazy and c) i dont like putting anything on my body except cleanser. But I have tons of scars all over, and thats why I use it. But sadly, I really haven't noticed any difference in my lines or scars on my face. On my body, I havne't used it consistently enough ever to know what it wouldve done... but if it was going to do somethign I would assume it wouldve worked on my face. I have no idea why I continue to use it, maybe its helped a little,b ut the site is so dark convincing, the science etc..the most convincing I've seen, that I want to believe it. I have spent a fortune tryign every hyped up product before most people knew they existed. I'm really over copper peptides by now.. and I'm using like 53 million things on my face and what I'm really getting is excess irritation and peeling from it all. I would say just ust a consistent proven routine, like the information paula begoun gives.... use a gentle cleanser and something like dove fresh radiance anti aging moisturizer spf 15 (love that one!!).. having a good skin routine with antioxidants, exfoliants, moisturizers, and esp sunscreen is really all that you need. MOst stuff is just gimmicky.