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Jennifer

Jennifer

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lately, i've been breaking out HORRIBLY and these things just stick around for more than a month. i was venting to my mom, who doesn't believe in this whole skin care thing. she told me it's because i use a cleanser, mask, moisturizer, etc. she told me to just stick with soap and water. i explained to her why it wasn't good to use soap because of how drying it could be on the face.

she was like, "look at my face. i've been using soap and water since the day i could wash my face and i've never gotten a pimple or had skin problems. look at the females in kosovo (where my family is from, my mom was born there). have you ever seen one with bad skin? all they use over there is soap and water. that's all they know to use. most of the time, they don't even use soap on the face, just water."

i kept saying it was bull, but then i thought about it. i really don't remember ONE person over there having bad skin. i've never seen more than one zit on a person.

what do you think? i'm kinda torn.

 
all i use is dial soap and water, i get the occasional blackhead or pimple, but no breakouts like i used to.

 
i used dove soap and vaseline on my face until i was 39, then my face had some sort of melt down. i started to breakout with cystic acne. it was so awful. i had to change the way i looked at everything from my skin care regime to my diet. thank goodness now it's under control, but my soap and water days are so over!

 
i used dove soap too really long time.. but im not a good example my skin is awful.

but i heard dove is good for the skin.

 
That's what my esthetician recommended for me. I thought he was crazy. I still break out due to stress but i've got stuff under control for the most part.

You might check into getting a bar of sulfur soap. It's worked well for me. It's kinda drying and something you might just want to use in the morning and then moisturize well afterwards. You can purchase it online or at a local health food store. I usually use this or tea tree oil soap in the mornings and a liquid cleanser at night.

Like Kim said, everyone is different and what works for one might not for the next. I hope you can find something you like that works well for you!

 
Imho ...I never use soap and water on my face unless I really have to. Most soaps are nothing more then detergents. If you must use soap try a handmade castile soap ( all olive oil) or one with goats milk also handmade not store bought. There is also a lot of crap in our waters now a days. I get sick drinking water in the next town over and yes it is city water not well. It is just from a different spot. I can't help but wonder if the skin on our face reacts to water too. Now a days it is filled wih clorine. Take a bottle of water and a glass of water and smell them both. Better yet put them both in a glass and see if you can pick out your tap water... This is going on your skin...

 
I totally agree! I can smell the chlorine in our water and I certainly don't drink it. I have a shower filter but I wash my face at the sink at night. I know it's bad for the skin!

 
I think it has less to do with skin care and more to do with hormones in our milk and meat, overconsumption of sugars, having an imbalance of fatty acids in the body and, when taking all that into consideration, pair it with a unique low biological tolerance to these damaging situations that make certain people more susceptible to acne than others.

But that's just my theory! :icon_wink

 
o personally would never put soap on my face, but i really think you sould try the soap and water because maybe you have the same skin as your mother and she doesnt break out. i say try in imo:icon_love

 
Jen, I've been through the same thing and my mom (and dad) said my problems were due to all the junk I put on my face. If they wash their faces, they use regular soap (we use Dove in the house) and don't believe in those "fancy" moisturizers. Instead they put Vaseline on their faces, yes Vaseline, and my mo uses Nivea and swears by it. They've never used spf, moisturizers, exfoliators, etc. and their skin is nice. My mom is 51 and has never used wrinkle creams or sunscreen and she looks remarkably well. I hope I got those genes.

I do believe you can stress out your skin from too many products. I swear by Dove soap to wash off my make-up (sensitive skin so there aren't any fragrances) and I make sure to moisturize well afterwards. Using a mask or exfoliator during the week is fine too but take it easy. After all, can it hurt to use fewer products for a while?

 
my friend uses soap and had never had a spot since iv known her the same with my mom aswell, i used soap when i was 15 until i knew about cleansers, toners etc. and honestly i had great skin then but i dnt know if that was because of the soap. doves got a phd balanced soap something like that and its meant to be good because it doesnt dry you out.

you might aswell give it a try and check our some reviews on MUA

 
Could it be that you are breaking out because of stress? That is often the problem.

I have a friend who has awesome skin and you know what she use: Zest and water. Yup... you heard me...Zest! I took her to get a make-over and the MA thought she was crazy! She talked her into buying all of the skincare items (some which I use) and she ended up getting bad breakouts.

 
hmmm, my mom always says we use to much stuff on our faces, and thinks microdermabrasion etc is bad, she does used cetaphil and moisturizes, but thinks all the other stuff is unnecessary. She may be right.

 
thanks for the opinions/suggestions, everyone!

kim, i've been having these zits stick around for at least two months. i mean, they don't move. they don't get bigger or smaller. they just stay there like it's part of my face. i've given each cleanser i've used at least 3 weeks and nothing's changed. the same goes for my moisturizer. i barely use masks anymore. i exfoliate with the same product i always use once a week. it's so weird. that's why i don't think it's the products i'm using.

liltbitprincess, i'm gonna have to take a look at my water. i use a brita filter for drinking, but not for other things. i live in the city now, so the water may be worse.

marisol, i'm starting to think this is ALL from stress.

jen, i'm thinking she may be right, too :icon_wink

 
Are you using Mac foundation? Just a thought but I have read that a lot of ladies found they broke out when they were using it.

If not again I would start with the water. Hmmm also something else that just came to mind. Do you use a face cloth or towel.. which I am assuming you do? Have you changed laundry soap/fabric softner? Might be a long shot.....

 
Water could be one of the reason here but I also think it's stress Jen!

Try to calm and find something that can make you feel better.

Get enough sleep watch your diet as well.

Last, be patient and always try to think positive sweetie!

 
I don't think soap and water will be a solution for you, I much prefer gentle cleansers, but if you want to try a bar soap, i don't guess it would be too bad. But not using exfoliants, antibacterials, and antioxidants and a uva/uvb sunscreen is not good. EVERYONE should wash their face 2x a day, and use at least a sunscreen with antioxidants that has a uva protecting ingredient w/ at least spf 15 during the day, and if you have dry skin, use some kind of proper moisturizer with healthy ingredients before the sunscreen or get acombo product. But with acne, not doing anything isn't going to help. I have bad cysts. I do use everything and using too much is bad.. I exfoliate and irritate too much I know. But you should at least be using a good salicylic acne product (neutrogena clear pore or paulas choice) and a benzoyl peroxide product (like ddf benzoyl peroxide 5% w/ tea tree oil or mary kay blemish gel (5% bpo) 2 x a day before your sunscreen, and after washing. And certain moisturizers help calm down the skin, and aren't bad for acne at all. Many cosmetics, especially makeup and certain moisturizers, hair sprays etc def can cause acne, but scanning the ingredients for those items and trial and error is best. I like aveeno ultra calming foaming cleanser, then using neutrona clear pore gel, then mary kay 5% benzoyl peroxide gel (I keep forgetting the name of it, they only have one acne cream period :p /emoticons/[email protected] 2x" width="20" height="20" />), then dove fresh radiance anti aging moisturizer with spf 15. That would be a good simple routine I think for you too. Put makeup on thats not got pore cloggers on after the sunscreen if you must..but watch for myristates, palmitates, etc. And wash your face and repeat the acne stuff again at night. If it doesn't get better go to a dermatologist.

 
Up until recently I used Olay Moisture Balancing cleansing wash and Olay Complete care moisturiser and my skin was constantly oily with blackheads and pimples.

My friend recommended dove soap and olay beauty fluid. She's been using it for years too and I've never seen her skin with a break out. She gets the odd pimple at that time of the month but her skin is perfect!

I think back to basics too now I doubt I'll ever use anything else again as since using Dove and Olay beauty fluid I havent had a spot or a blackhead!

 
Your mum could definately be on to something, before I got into skincare I used to use Dove and the Cocoa Butter (the actual one in tub, who knows what I was thinking), and I always had clear skin. I wouldn't use the cocoa butter now I know better but the idea of less being more does work, think back to what out grandmothers did...I'm sure they didn't have a 5-step routine with hundreds of products on rotation.

While I feel *can't* live without cleanser, toner, moisturiser, exfoliator and face mask I feel that for most part I've made myself dependent on them

 

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